All this reminds me of a scene in Brother from Another Planet, when some aliens hunting another alien ask a man for his green card in a bar in NYC. I think the taller one is played by John Sayles, the director.
There are many youtube videos of people refusing to cooperate at random immigration check points. I always thought, “don’t try this unless you’re a white man”.
Sure enough, here is a white woman refusing to cooperate. She was detained. It was also just a few months ago, and things have surely gotten tighter out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAASgPU1BQc
Here’s a compilation of several white men refusing to cooperate from 2013 and earlier (not sure if this would work anymore):
I just know I’m scared for my future.
I’m scared for the present and the future of our country.
The rule that the green card holder has to keep the actual card on them at all times is decades old. It’s what the green card holder agrees to. No, my 2 year old did not have hers with her at daycare but she was a rebel even then. My niece’s husband, who is Canadian, does have his with him at all times, especially when traveling or at work.
It is harder to get the new REAL ID licenses. That’s the point. More states are requiring either a passport or a certified birth certificate plus other documents to get the license. I started using passports as my kids’ IDs when they first got them at 3 and 4. Much easier to register them for camp, school, sports teams with one document (passport) than all the other documents, including D’s Certificate of Citizenship which now costs $1200 to replace if lost.
I don’t know why yours doesn’t have one, HIMom
I just opened the license yesterday and NO, there is NO GOLD STAR anywhere on the new license that is a REAL ID. I did have to bring a passport, birth certificate (or SS card–don’t have one as I’m too young), two bills or recent financial statements listing my address and my name as proof that I live where I listed. They scanned all of those documents, did vision test, took photo, collected $$ and mailed me my license some time later.
My state is not REAL ID compliant and the entire state is within the 100 mile zone, so I guess anyone without a passport is out of luck. That would be the majority of state residents.
No they were not looking for a specific person who they found. They specifically pick out POC. They ended up taking an elderly Jamaican woman off the bus and putting her in detention for overstaying her Visa. Wow, definitely a bad hombre…
https://www.dhs.gov/real-id-faq-implementation
Q. How should states mark compliant and non-compliant licenses so that screeners can easily distinguish between acceptable and unacceptable state-issued driver’s licenses or identification cards?
A. While DHS recommends that states adopt the general design marking (aka “gold star”), per the REAL ID Security Plan Guidance Handbook, states may submit for DHS review and approval alternative methods of marking documents to clearly differentiate a compliant card from a non-compliant card. Those methods could include differentiations in color, lettering, and/or format.
I guess our state (HI) opted NOT to put “gold stars” on our IDs. They are showing something different for non-compliant cards, as DHS allows per the website.
HiMom, you ARE old enough for a SS card! All you have to be is breathing.
I did see an article that said Hawaii issues ID’s without the stars (Utah also); didn’t say why.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/national/real-ids/?utm_term=.14add0935b6a
Sorry, meant Medicare card. They would only accept SS or Medicare card. We all have our SS cards in this house.
Your link is behind paywall. Can’t view it.
I live within 5 miles of the coast. No way am I going around with my passport.
Back when I was in college I had issues with Amtrak wanting ID when I was paying for tickets and I had to have my passport for them.
I have a REAL ID - there is a star on the front of it but it’s not gold. It’s black.
A random question - why would anyone need an ID to fly domestically (other than IDing victims of a crash or proving that a kid is young enough to sit on a parent’s lap). Who cares who you really are? X-ray the belongings, microwave the heck out of the human, and off we go, pretty safe.
Haven’t I.D.'s been required on all flights since 9-11?
ICE has jurisdiction 100 miles from ports and borders. That includes airports. We all live within 100 miles of airports.
I don’t know any ICE agents but I regard them as Brown Shirts. I’m not liking where this is taking us as a nation.
Goon squad - as HIMom said. Love it.
Hey ICE, are you carefully reading this thread? 
I have a good friend who is an ICE agent. He’s a terrific guy. He’s had some glamorous assignments like working at the Hurricane Katrina sites for about 2 years, and working at a camp in NM for the summer where they were housing the unaccompanied minors who came across the border from Central America. He did everything he could for them.
How robust is the 100 mile “rule”? Surely it could not stand up to a constitutional challenge?
Not until someone challenges it and the case gets on the SCOTUS docket, and the court agrees with the plaintiff.
https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
Read up on what the ACLU has to say about the 100 mile border/ports of entry and border patrol/ICE:
https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone?redirect=constitution-100-mile-border-zone
https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-factsheet-customs-and-border-protections-100-mile-zone?redirect=immigrants-rights/aclu-fact-sheet-customs-and-border-protections-100-mile-zone
Some salient points ( but much more worth reading in the links. “An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people.” - Thomas Jefferson ):
Border Patrol, nevertheless, cannot pull anyone over without “reasonable suspicion” of an immigration violation or crime (reasonable suspicion is more than just a “hunch”). Similarly, Border Patrol cannot search vehicles in the 100-mile zone without a warrant or “probable cause” (a reasonable belief, based on the circumstances, that an immigration violation or crime has likely occurred).
In practice, Border Patrol agents routinely ignore or misunderstand the limits of their legal authority in the course of individual stops, resulting in violations of the constitutional rights of innocent people. These problems are compounded by inadequate training for Border Patrol agents, a lack of oversight by CBP and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the consistent failure of CBP to hold agents accountable for abuse. Thus, although the 100-mile border zone is not literally “Constitution free,” the U.S. government frequently acts like it is.
The regulations establishing the 100-mile border zone were adopted by the U.S. Department of Justice in 1953—without any public comments or debate. At the time, there were fewer than 1,100 Border Patrol agents nationwide; today, there are over 21,000.