<p>50s?! Psh, women could vote by the 50s and we all know that was the start of the downward spiral </p>
<p>No, some won’t be happy until we’re back firmly in the 1820s when the prevailing theory was that the uterus roamed around the body causing all sorts of issues.</p>
<p>If religious groups actually wanted to end abortions, they instead of opposing birth control they would be demanding an expansion of birth control with education etc. But then again when is religion supposed to be logical.</p>
<p>They don’t want to be compelled to perform them. That’s’ different from ending them. And, this isn’t even about abortion which is a much more difficult issue than writing a script for cramps instead of birth control. </p>
<p>"Hobby Lobby comes down to one basic question. What does the Constitution protect- religious freedom or having ones employer pay for birth control? "</p>
<p>Seems like their religious convictions doesn’t prevent them from making money from the same BC they refuse to offer their employees. Hmmmm…</p>
<p><a href=“Hobby Lobby Invested In Numerous Abortion And Contraception Products While Claiming Religious Objection”>http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2014/04/01/hobby-lobby-401k-discovered-to-be-investor-in-numerous-abortion-and-contraception-products-while-claiming-religious-objection/</a></p>
<p>How did this get back to Hobby lobby again? All roads seem to lead to Hobby Lobby.</p>
<p>Hypocrisy at its finest.
Ugh. </p>
<p>Didn’t Jesus have a few words about greed? Hmm… I seem to recall from my Catholic school days that that was one of his pet peeves. </p>
<p>Investing in a mutual fund is greed? LOL.</p>
<p>They are using company funds to invest in companies that make the BC they refuse to allow their employees to get because it’s against their religious convictions - seems the height of hypocrisy to me. </p>
<p>Maybe, but I doubt most people or corporations have a clue what their mutual funds are invested in. Also, they are not refusing to allow their employees to get anything. They are objecting to being compelled to provide it. A difference. </p>
<p>Emily, they are not preventing their employees from getting birth control. </p>
<p>Of course they know. </p>
<p>From the article in Forbes:</p>
<p>“Not only does Hobby Lobby have an obligation to know what their sponsored 401(k) is investing in for the benefit of their employees, it turns out that there are ample opportunities for the retirement fund to invest in mutual funds that are specifically screened to avoid any religiously offensive products.”</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/publications/fiduciaryresponsibility.html”>http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/publications/fiduciaryresponsibility.html</a></p>
<p>They refuse to use corporate funds to provide certain birth control to their employees, yet have no problem using corporate funds to invest in companies (and earn them money) that produce these same BC devices. </p>
<p>“They are objecting to being compelled to provide it.”</p>
<p>They are objecting to being compelled to provide it because they argue it violates their religious rights under the First Amendment. </p>
<p>Correct. Just like the nuns. Personally, I think they should just cut everyone’s hours like the other retail chains but they seem to want to make a point, here.</p>
<p>Iim reminded of the poem about no one left to stand for me.
With access to health care eroding, especially for women, are we just going to watch until we feel we are directly affected?</p>
<p>Okay, how is Hobby Lobby not wanting to pay for 4 out of 20 methods of birth control eroding access to anything? The employees can go buy whatever they want. They have access. Next people are going to demand free delivery. Sigh. </p>
<p>It’s funny that Hobby Lobby had no problem having medical insurance which covered the BC they are objecting to covering now (including Plan B) before it became a government mandate. </p>
<p>Yup. Government mandates frequently cause unforeseen problems. Not surprising. </p>
<p>Are you saying it’s really not about their freedom of religion at all - that they are using the religion excuse simply to avoid the mandate? </p>
<p>There are 20 methods of birth control?
Really?
Are they equally easy to use and effective?</p>
<p>I haven’t read all the posts, so perhaps this has been mentioned, but what happens when a company owner objects to blood transfusions or vaccinations based on their religion? Does that coverage drop out of our health care plan based on the whim of the owner? I agree with @emeraldkity4 - do we not stand against it until it hits our particular health plan? And I’m more than a little annoyed that much of the health coverage hoo-ha has to do with our lady parts stuff. </p>