<p>“If a woman is naked up in someone’s hotel room voluntarily, there is a reasonable expectation of sex. The statute that a person’s sexual history cannot be brought up in court in a rape trial (rape shield law?) is complete BS.”</p>
<p>Wow. Reasonable expectation, huh? I think there’s a reasonable expectation that if she says stop, he should stop…and I don’t care is she’s naked or not. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp and why do some men think they should be able to completely assume control of a woman’s body based on passing a certain threshold of clothing removal? Going further, if you reasonably assume a woman should have sex with you based on this criteria, I hope you reasonably assume she might bash your skull with something if you don’t take your hands off when she asks. Hey, fair is fair.</p>
<p>I wonder if there is some connection between men who think that rape and assault as well as other offenses are overreported, and men who aren’t having any luck finding dates.</p>
<p>I would think that sort of attitude toward women would be pretty hard to hide- we may be beautiful- but we aren’t obtuse.</p>
<p>I think the idea os the loner misfit rapist is mostly myth for our own self-protection ( I’ll know when when I see them). Many of the most newsworthy had wives or girlfriends or were attractive enough to entice many women(Ted Bundy).</p>
<p>actually I was being snarky and making reference to people who post on CC and refer to women as “heifers” , “chicks” and complain about not being able to get dates, but think that women are changing their mind afterward to get attention</p>
<p>I was sexually assaulted in middle school- by a group of middle school boys on campus ( when waiting for the activity bus after school), I was raped when I was in high school, when accepting a ride home from someone in my large group of aquaintances, but not someone I knew well, and I was also sexually assualted by the college roommate of my boyfriend who was out of town. I didn’t realize that this man apparently had a fetish about redheads, I knew that he thought a lot of himself- he was high school president, good with words, but not too good at putting himself in someone elses place. When I ran into him years later at a society function- he had no recollection that the last time I saw him, I was fighting to get away and left my stuff at his parents house to do so ( we were going to go out to dinner)
I didn’t call the police on any of those incidents, because I was pretty traumatized, and I couldn’t envision discussing them with a stranger. I jsut was trying to block it out.
So instead of thinking that rape is over reported- I believe it is probablly grossly underreported because of attitudes similar to those of some on these boards are unfortunately not uncommon</p>
<p>I never meant to downplay rape at all. I never have had experience with this at all, so I do not know how it is. I just know how many females are very vengeful and think that accusing someone of rape is a joke, not realizing that even FALSE accusations can ruin the poor man’s life. The overwhelming supermajority of men and women are not rapists or false accusers of rape. I am just singling out those who do. Forcible rape emeraldkitty has described is never right and should be punished serverely. I just take issue with women who decide to lead men on and get them in the bedroom naked and then try to tease with the word “no” while still going at it. There is a point of no return in the bedroom and you cannot convince me otherwise. Futhermore, a woman (was going to use the chick word here ;)) who voluntarily gets intoxicated has the ability to consent.</p>
<p>Joev, regarding your mythical “point of no return,” you are full of it, and my husband, along with any other honorable man with a modicum of self-respect, will be the first to tell you so.</p>