<p>mom - thanks</p>
<p>good luck to your son fallpsat! where all has he received interviews from so far?</p>
<p>Do not feel frustrated, please, even if you recieve rejection. It is EASIER to get to Case Med. School regular route than to their PPSP. Nothing is lost. Just continue working hard in college (which is a must, PPSP or not) and you will be there and some other amazing places. Do not need to go to any fancy UG either. Can still attend Case or any other school that fits you.</p>
<p>Hello Ferredoxin,
First of all congratulations on your being at PPSP Med in CW. Do you know what are the statistics of how many apply, how many are invited for interviews and how many are ultimately offered a position?
My S is anxiously awaiting the results. He did get invited to UMiami and finished his interview. However, the rate of acceptance post interview is about 1 in 5.
Your thoughts appreciated!
Thanks,
Texan.</p>
<p>rejected! saw this coming</p>
<p>@texasaustin My son heard that he was not selected for CW PPSP. It seems that they interview 85 for around 10 seats. When we visited CWRU last year, we heard that the Med college is not obligated to accept 10 every year and some years they have accepted only 1 or 2 students. Our experience during the information session there was not very positive. My son felt that the inteviewer had an attitude and was generally not very helpful answering question about PPSP. So we were not very surprised by the result. Hope you son had better luck. Fortunately, my S has interview call for NWU HPME and couple of other excellent programs which he is looking forward to.</p>
<p>As I said, nobody should be devasted by rejction at either PPSP or NwU HPME. It is easier to get into either of these Med. Schools Regular Route than into respective combined programs. Both Medical schools are very good and they accept the same students in many cases (regular route). Med. School programs are different though.<br>
I am sorry to hear about negative experience with PPSP info session. Contrary to this, Case Medical school really cares about its students, their general well being and accomodate cetarin special requirements of each. It would go so far as to take care of students needs during severe weather, which is common in Cleveland area.</p>
<p>Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine (part of Case but different from the Case School of Medicine) offers free tuition to all admitted students. This pulls excellent students from everywhere, and certainly impacts on BS/MD programs.</p>
<p>Most students with a good AMCAS GPA will have numerous excellent med schools to choose from, and will do well on MCAT. </p>
<p>That is why BS/MD programs are dwindling, because many are not affiliated with top-tier medical schools and those top-tier students simply limit their choices by staying in the programs they are affiliated with.</p>
<p>@MiamiDAP Case Western is obviously a great medical school. My comment was about the CW undergraduate admissions office. While most schools put us in touch with the director of the combined bs/md program, CW was not very forthcoming. When my S asked the admission officer for advice on how he can put togather a strong application, the lady who interviewed him, was not very helpful (I talked to her as well later and she pointed us to their website). That was a shame, considering how professionaly some of the program directors at other institutions interacted with us, helping review CV and giving frank opinion on his chances. </p>
<p>This is what they say in their website “The average Pre-Professional Scholars Program candidate for the CWRU School of Medicine will have ranked at least in the top 10 percent of his or her senior class and have an average SAT composite (math, critical reading and writing) score of 2200-2300 or an average ACT composite score of 31-34. While the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT) is not required, Pre-Professional Scholars who choose to take it must present a total score of 33 or above.” My son’s stats are infact well above the criterion mentioned in their website and yet he was not selected for interview. I have no problem with that, but why would CW not be more transparent about this program? </p>
<p>My final conclusion is that CW is using PPSP as a marketing tool. They are not serious about this program as some of the other programs we applied to. My advice for future students would be to focus their energy on well executed programs such as the Brown PLME, BU, Penn State/Jeff, RPI-Sienna-Union/AMC, NU HPME, REMS etc etc etc and pass on PPSP. </p>
<p>Suggestion to CW admission office - please post the median SAT, ACT, SAT II (and class rank) scores of students invited for interview for the last couple of years. At least this will help students be their own judge.</p>
<p>^ well said</p>
<p>@matrix007. Great Suggestion to CW admission office.</p>
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<li><p>They do still offer plenty merit scholarship money, even for PPSP candidates. It makes no difference to them since you are accepted to CWRU UG first. Everyone I know received at least 30k in merit money. It’s really fantastic.</p></li>
<li><p>PPSP is not very well known among the undergraduate students, which I actually like. No one treats me differently because I’m in the program. My close friends know and think I must be some sort of genius for being in the program, but other than that, I am just like any other undergrad. I can study whatever I want, major in whatever I want, and I am free to explore my interests. I have already taken classes in several non-science departments just for fun (because my extensive AP credit made my first year schedule pretty light haha). I know at places like BU, the SMED students really stick together, because they have a very specific/somewhat rigid curriculum in order to graduate early. I’m not saying this is a bad thing, but to each their own. </p></li>
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<p>That being said, PPSP students still have monthly meetings and they are very informal/fun. Our advisor, Dr. Pedigo, who is also in charge of undergraduate research at CWRU, is a sweetheart. She is very nice and funny and accomplished and she is really willing to work with all of us to make the most out of our time here. At our meetings, a lot of older PPSP-ers talk about their research experiences and study abroad experiences, etc. and give the younger students advice on how to get involved. Someone earlier asked about maintaining a 3.6 GPA at CWRU. It’s absolutely doable. No one has been kicked out of the program for not maintaining the GPA, to my knowledge. That being said, no one in PPSP is an engineer, to my knowledge 
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<p>I genuinely love how diverse all the students are. Everyone in the program is truly a leader on campus, whether in Student Government, their Sorority/Fraternity, at UH (University Hospital) as a volunteer, or at Cleveland Clinic doing brilliant research. Though us PPSP-ers are given an AMAZING privilege/ opportunity through the program, the program does not define our undergraduate experience here, which I think truly makes this program different. I am involved in student government, greek life, my cultural organization, AND I’m not going to lie, I work hard, play harder on the weekends (yes, Friday AND Saturday night. Not everyone at Case is a video game nerd… but if that’s what you’re into, you’ll find that here, too hahaha). I LOVE college, and I’m so happy with my decision to come here. Being part of the program has given me the confidence to try new things I otherwise would not have done (as in, if I weren’t in the program, I’d be repeating high school all over again… taking the hardest classes, spending all my free time volunteering/shadowing, motivated solely by the goal of getting into med school. I never would’ve thought to run for class president or join a sorority if it weren’t for this opportunity. Trying new things is AWESOME).</p>
<p>WOW that was a really long post but basically, college is what you make of it. I love it here and can’t imagine going anywhere else. To all the scared high school seniors right now… know that wherever you end up, CWRU or somewhere else, BS/MD program or not, you can define your college experience however you want to. And if you end up at Case, hit me up because I’d love to meet PPSP prospies :))</p>
<p>@Matrix007: I’m sorry you had a bad experience at the undergraduate admissions office 
To be honest, they probably didn’t know much about the program since program admissions and CWRU admissions are completely separate. You are accepted to the undergrad, with a scholarship most likely, long before the PPSP process begins. If you have questions specific to the program, I’d advise you to talk to Dr. Pedigo, who is in charge of the program. I had a fantastic time during my accepted students day/ interview and it was the main reason I chose to come here. The school is pretty small and they really care about their students, cliche as it sounds. I remember thinking I would NEVER come to Cleveland for college (8 years here?! GAH NEVER. EAST COAST FTW)… I only applied because my mom strongly suggested it aka forced me to. </p>
<p>But then I visited here and fell in love and life is great.</p>
<p>I think they don’t have too many stats about the program online because its so small… I agree though, it would help to have averages about interviewees and accepted students. I thought the program was really sketch when I first applied, because I couldn’t find too much info about it online, but having gone through the application process and now attending CWRU, I have to say that being in PPSP is one of the best things that could’ve happened to me and I absolutely love it here and the opportunities it’s opened up to me (please see above post). I also REALLY like how its a small program with a TON of flexibility, unlike many of the rigid 7 year programs. To each their own, though.</p>
<p>If you have any questions, feel free to message me or comment on this thread, I’ll try my best to answer. Best of luck to everyone applying 
It’s a great program. Honestly.</p>
<p>I think the fact that I just spent around 30 min writing the above responses and reflecting on my last 6 months here says a lot about how much I love my school and how badly I want you all to consider coming here <333333333</p>
<p>Shine on forever, Case Western Reserve.</p>
<p>would you know : </p>
<p>1) if PPSP medical student at Case Western will be taught at ‘Cleveland Clinic’ (Other than
the University Hospitals Case Medical Center)
2) If I decide to apply other medical school after 4 years at PPSP; Is Case
western a well recognized and reputable school
tks.</p>
<p>1) No.
BTW, the 30 that are accepted to the free Med. School DO NOT HAVE lectures, thee do not take exams before rotations either. Do not know about rotaion part. PPSP are part of regular Case Wetern Med. School (the one with lecture blocks and exams at the end of each block)
Every American Med. School is reputable school. Having signle spot at any is a dream of every Med. School applicant.</p>
Hi, question for you…can you give any insight into what type of questions to expect for the interview? Thank you
For case ppsp program interviews, anyone have any advice? Also approximately what % of finalist get a letter of acceptance?
Can you share details about your interview? How many applicants, questions you were asked, etc?