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[Repede]

<p>I thought the A stood for Asexual.</p>

<p>Also, isn’t it LGBTQIA?</p>

<p>I is for Intersex.</p>

[bclintonk]

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[quote=romanigypsyeyes]

[quote]
An emergency contact isn’t a legal relationship. A fianc</p>

[stressedouttt]

<p>As private organizations, I think shops are justified in choosing who to sell to. You shouldn’t have to provide for something that you don’t support.</p>

[emilybee]

<p>“As private organizations, I think shops are justified in choosing who to sell to. You shouldn’t have to provide for something that you don’t support.”</p>

<p>Oy vey.</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

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romani, I’m quite certain that in Michigan you and your partner could each fill out health care durable power-of-attorney forms, designating each other as the person to make health care decisions in the event either of you is incapacitated (e.g., in a coma or delirious and not capable of making rational health care decisions). You can get these forms from your doctor or at any hospital. They need to be signed and dated and witnessed by two adults, but it’s a fairly simple process.

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<p>bc, yes, we could. However, as young people, it’s not something we had thought about. </p>

<p>Again, I was just using the example to illustrate a point. I know what our options are. </p>

<p>But as was demonstrated in Missouri, that’s not always a practical solution. The partner did have the power to make medical decisions. However, since he didn’t have that paper ON HIM, they sided with the bio family- which they would not have done had then been legally, fully married.</p>

[pugmadkate]

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But that law is only the default; a valid health care durable power of attorney takes precedence.

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<p>Good luck trying to get some bigot to respect your power of attorney powers. </p>

<p>"…Langbehn said a social worker at the hospital informed her, “I need you to know this is an anti-gay city and a anti-gay state, and you are not going to get to see her or know her condition.”</p>

<p>“I felt like I was being put on notice,” said Langbehn, now 40 and a social worker herself. She immediately called a friend to fax health care proxies and a durable power of attorney but the hospital disregarded the documents…"</p>

<p>[Lesbians</a> Sue When Partners Die Alone - ABC News](<a href=“Lesbians Sue When Partners Die Alone - ABC News”>Lesbians Sue When Partners Die Alone - ABC News)</p>

[stressedouttt]

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Good luck trying to get some bigot to respect your power of attorney powers.

??</p>

<p>By that argument you could say, “Good luck trying to get some bigot to respect your legal marriage.”</p>

<p>Legalizing marriage won’t help that scenario. Holding hospitals responsible for such behavior will.</p>

[DonnaL]

<p>

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Queer/Questioning, Ally.

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<p>The “A,” when used, does stand for asexual. If Allies were part of the “umbrella” themselves, then they wouldn’t be allies. </p>

<p>And just please stop with the “it should be OK not to sell to anyone you want to” argument, to anyone making it. Somehow nobody ever seems to argue anymore that a store or hotel should have a right not to sell to black people or Jews, or not rent a room to them. It’s only “the right not to sell or rent to gay people” that gets defended so vociferously.</p>

<p>I’m doing my very best not to be political and get this thread shut down, so I’m commenting as little as possible on this thread at this point!</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

<p>Donna, I’ve always heard it as ally. Here’s the first Google search of it
[LGBTQA</a> Office About Us](<a href=“Division of Student Affairs | University of Idaho”>Division of Student Affairs | University of Idaho)</p>

<p>In fact, almost the whole first page (that I see) uses it to refer to “ally”. (<a href=“Google”>Google)</p>

<p>Not saying it’s right, but saying that that’s how almost all LGBT people (and allies) I know use it.</p>

[DonnaL]

<p>Hunh. Shows how much I know! Which is probably why I usually just say LGBT.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>It’s used as both…</p>

<p>Asexual and ally.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>

Allies aren’t part of the actual queer community, they’re just supportive.

Pfft, ok, redhuntinghat. Let’s see the queer community get anywhere without the support of allies. :rolleyes: </p>

<p>Face it. The queer community needs their supports. Especially when the supporters might just outnumber them!</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

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Hunh. Shows how much I know! Which is probably why I usually just say LGBT.

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<p>As do I. Makes things easier I just thought adding A in that context was appropriate lol. </p>

<p>Hopefully one day, the alphabet soup won’t be necessary. Or another term can be used to describe the whole community + allies. I don’t know of one ATM.</p>

<p>As someone of the “LGBT” community, I have absolutely NO issue with allies joining themselves in the alphabet soup. Just my personal thoughts on the matter. IMO, it describes the community and that community can include straight people. And yes, Niquii is right. LGBT people wouldn’t get many, if any, real significant rights without straight allies. Or it would be a MUCH, MUCH slower process.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>It’s not uncommon for someone to equate a PoC as a black person.</p>

<p>Weren’t black people in the past called colored people? Therefore, following the train of thought, a person of color would be black…</p>

[Lergnom]

<p>There’s an entire body of literature about the gradations of color within the African-American community. For example, the play Yellowman by Dael Orlandersmith, which is about a “high yellow” man and a dark woman. It’s been a topic for books and plays - and music - for the entirety of the 20thC.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>There may an “body of literature”, but I doubt it equates to the vast recognition of the four letters “LBGT”.</p>

[LasMa]

<p>3togo, very interesting link (#409) about the anti-gay conservative religious community’s response to the rulings this week. They seem chastened.</p>

<p>

Many evangelical pastors have seen homosexuality as a distant culture-war battle that’s fought far from the doors of the churches, Moore said.</p>

<p>Now, it’s as close as their front pews.</p>

<p>“I think it’s not so much that churches haven’t wanted to talk about it,” he said, “but they haven’t recognized how much the culture has changed around them.”</p>

<p>The first step, said Moore, is learning to defend traditional marriage without demonizing gays and lesbians.

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<p>That will be a refreshing change, the not-demonizing part. </p>

<p>It seems that the gay-haters are even being tuned out by their own flocks, especially young Christians:</p>

<p>

When Christian researchers at the Barna Group asked Americans aged 16-29 what words best describe Christianity, the top response was “anti-homosexual.” That was true of more than 90 percent of non-Christians and 80 percent of churchgoers, according to Barna. . .</p>

<p>“The shrill angry voices of retrenchment are no longer getting a broad hearing either in the culture at large or in the evangelical community,” Merritt said.

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[sorghum]

<p>Personally, I am white but not colorless.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>

Personally, I am white but not colorless.

…:rolleyes:</p>

<p>Do we really need to bring politically correctness in here?</p>

<p>

@Source

…typically refer to people of African, Asian, Hispanic and/or Latino, and Native American heritage…

If you’re not one of those…</p>

[alh]

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As private organizations, I think shops are justified in choosing who to sell to. You shouldn’t have to provide for something that you don’t support.

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<p>Aren’t examples of this sort of discrimination taught in high school American History classes?</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/01/arts/design/01museum.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/01/arts/design/01museum.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>These days, when minority groups have decided to boycott businesses with discriminatory practices, it seems to usually have serious economic consequences. Businesses generally start apologizing. A power shift, imho.</p>

<p>adding: </p>

<p>[Discrimination</a> in Places of Public Accommodation - Civil Rights](<a href=“http://civilrights.uslegal.com/discrimination-in-places-of-public-accommodation/]Discrimination”>Discrimination in Places of Public Accommodation – Civil Rights)</p>