@alh yes, just Googled the image (you can Google Image search by attaching an image to the query) which led to an article on Buzzfeed which led to a blog which linked back to the original creator. I had remembered seeing it before and had free time at the moment, so went ahead and looked for it.
Clearly all of you who are expressing interest in this Pinterest painting idea majored in something not too intellectually challenging, minored in spouse hunting, and dedicate most of your current time and effort to making sure you’re well dressed and shun anyone who wears the wrong color lipstick.
PG: it’s true a few posters judged the young women on their personal presentation and made leaps of judgement about them based on their decorating.
That’s not too interesting to me. It is interesting to me you are interested in the topic and I’m trying to play
As I understand it - Other posters aren’t objecting to the idea of decorating, or the young women’s personal presentation. They are questioning whether the decorating, which has become competitive, has become an exclusionary activity, because some young women won’t have the financial means to participate. Or they don’t have mothers who attended Ole Miss and understand this is a norm of being part of a certain group.
Again - in* Paying for the Party*, the authors describe a dorm situation where some women are excluded. Some of the ones doing the excluding are classic mean girls. Some are just oblivious. At least that is my memory of the book. It’s been more than a year since I read it. But we had the “excluding” discussion on that thread, I’m pretty sure.
I support all the girly girls and also the girly boys. I am in favor of being as inclusive as possible. That may mean deciding competitive decorating at Ole Miss just isn’t a great idea, even if I support the sort of decorating these girls do and how they dress and even their lipstick and husband hunting.
Sue pretty much convinced me. And MaterS. I am sorry for whomever I’m missing.
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OHMom: good luck with the search!
Heh, I never said I didn’t enjoy having “girly boys” for friends I just can imagine what the bros would say about the guy down the hall who interior designed his dorm room…but he’ll find friends for sure. They all can find friends…even slobs and the clueless about decorating find friends!
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^Apologies - I just pasted the link, not sure why it made it into an image.
@MaineLonghorn OK, I just reposted the link and it made it AUTOMATICALLY into an image. There is something in the CC software that does that. You might want to raise the issue with the tech folks.
This is the link:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/197032552420400346/ - I had to explicitly type the URL tags around it to prevent it from automatically making it into an image again.
I’m afraid you are just digging yourself in deeper, momofthreeboys. I don’t even know how to respond. My gay son has never lacked for friends. It’s a non-issue. I think maybe you didn’t even understand my last response to you.
I read the first post, jumped to this page to see how on earth dorm decor could go to 9 pages, and now I’m slooooooowly backing out.
I was never here.
closes door very quietly
Yeah, I’ve typed a response several times to that comment and can’t cover all I want to say but here’s part of it:
Maybe my kids are fortunate in their college choices and, therefore friends and classmates, but the vast majority of their peers are pretty openminded about gender fluidity, personal fashion choices, and less likely to stereotype anyone these days. They sure wouldn’t have a problem with any guy who wants to decorate their room. It’s one of the reasons our country is moving forward with more progressive social changes. Thank goodness!
My S and his best friend from high school ended up at the same school and though they didn’t room together were pretty much the classic Felix and Oscar. Both ended up with plenty of friends. “Felix” didn’t happen to be gay, he just cared about how his room looked (and smelled!), while “Oscar” didn’t bother to clear the floor unless a girl or his parents were visiting.
“They are questioning whether the decorating, which has become competitive, has become an exclusionary activity, because some young women won’t have the financial means to participate.”
There is no activity that isn’t at some point “exclusionary” if some people don’t have the means to participate, even if it’s grabbing coffee or going out for casual pizza night once a month. I don’t know how you ultimately solve for or prohibit that. This is agnostic to whether the college is northern or southern, Greek-dominant or not, selective vs not. It seems to be that this is a feature of life.
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-246505fe7c9a1ebecb1cb2045ca3aefe-c?convert_to_webp=true
Correction: This isn’t a Harvard College dorm room at all. It’s from the law school/graduate complex designed by Walter Gropius. There are unattractive/unspecial dorm rooms at the college, but this building is in a league of its own.
The window opens into a stairwell; do I have that correct? I would not like that at all. I do think a window to the outside is important, both for fresh air and for safety.
My D just moved from a garden apartment to another place (garden is euphemism for basement). Her room had a tiny window to the outside that even my tiny daughter could not have fit through in case of emergency. I bit my tongue but it was no good.
In the Gropius dorms? No, the windows open outside. These dorms are miserable to live in, but not for that reason. You can see the grass outside in a corner of the picture.
@itsgettingreal17 futon! I finally got it off the tip of my tongue. That futon-looking thing at the end of one of the beds.
*There is no activity that isn’t at some point “exclusionary” if some people don’t have the means to participate, even if it’s grabbing coffee or going out for casual pizza night once a month. I don’t know how you ultimately solve for or prohibit that. This is agnostic to whether the college is northern or southern, Greek-dominant or not, selective vs not. It seems to be that this is a feature of life. *
Some, however, may want to mitigate the pain and hurt feelings to others. To me, that seems an admirable goal, even if ultimately unrealistic. But the more we live our lives in an inclusive way, the more it changes society… as doschicos pointed out. To me, it’s all part of a whole. fwiw
I’m going to see if MotherofDragons will let me join her for coffee or pizza.
I’ll happily front anyone the $5 for a latte
I think as long as a more fortunate student has the class and sensitivity to understand that not everyone is in the same financial position, she’ll be fine.
Clueless would be expecting your roommate to shell out significant money on decorations without considering that she might not be willing or able to do so. Nothing wrong with buying nice stuff on your own, or getting enthused about prettying up your dorm if you happen to have a roommate with similar inclinations and the budget to match. I might draw the line at absurdly ostentatious moves like putting up a crystal chandelier, but buying nice bedding seems pretty reasonable.
As for social activities, I’d say if you’re planning a big group activity, you should try to keep cost down to be as inclusive as possible. There’s nothing wrong, however, with sometimes splurging with a friend in your income bracket. No one does every activity with every friend.
@doschicos These things run in cycles. Ten years from now an Ole Miss girl who does this will probably look ridiculous. Tie-dye and the hippie look might be back in. You have to live for the moment, as Auntie Mame says, “Live, live, live!”