double degrees and cross-registration...

<p>There is isn’t there? — <a href=“http://web.mit.edu/cheme/graduate/mscep.html[/url]”>http://web.mit.edu/cheme/graduate/mscep.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>hrm it’s called a Master’s of Science not Master’s of Engineering? Is there a big difference here?=) Thanks!</p>

<p>Yes there is. There isn’t any MEng in course 2 either, only SM.</p>

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<p>Funny you mention this. An alum once told me that a friend of his attained a phD in math; his entire thesis was 1 or 2 pages long. I don’t recall how long it took him, but from the sound of things, I don’t think it was quite long. (I also think this particular guy won the Putnum).</p>

<p>Well, there’s a difference between the EECS MEng program and getting an MS in Chem E. </p>

<p>Most notably, there’s a standard procedure for applying in EECS to MEng – you have to have a certain GPA, you fill out an application, and then you find an advisor. I think this application is submitted toward the end of junior year or beginning of senior year. So you start the work on the masters’ while still in undergrad – it’s very continuous. And from what I understand, if you have the GPA and can find an advisor to fund you, you’re good to go, no real “admissions” process to go through.</p>

<p>For ChemE, however, it’s a totally separate program. You apply as if you were applying to grad school in general. And ChemE is one of the programs that “kicks out” undergrads – according to a course 10 friend of mine, MIT course 10 undergrads just don’t get accepted to course 10 grad school.</p>

<p>Yep, mithopefulgirl, the MEng and the MS (actually, MIT calls it the SM) are 2 entirely different things. I believe all MIT engineering and science departments award SM degrees (although some of them may not be terminal SM programs), but not every engineering department awards an MEng. ChemE (couse 10) is one of those that does not award an MEng.</p>

<p>Basically, an MEng is a less research-oriented, more professionally-oriented master’s degree compared to the SM. I don’t want to overgeneralize because there is a lot of diversity among the various MEng programs, but basically the MEng programs tend to be faster to complete and involve less thesis writing and independent study than the SM programs do. </p>

<p>The most prominent MEng program at MIT is the one run by course 6 (EECS), and as molliebatmit mentioned, is quite distinctive. First of all, the course 6 MEng is open only to MIT undergrads. Undergrads from other schools cannot apply to the course6 MEng program. And furthermore, the app process (such as it is) is almost totally seamless - basically, all you do is fill out a simple app form, and if your grades in your course 6 undergrad classes are good enough, then you’re in. You don’t even need to have found an advisor to fund you at the time that you submit the app (it would be embarrassing to arrange for an advisor and then find out that the MEng program rejected you). Just one simple piece of paper and you’re done. They look at your grades and your coursework and they decide whether to take you. No need to sit for the GRE, no need to pay an app fee, no need to get prof recommendations, no need to fill out a personal statement, none of that jazz. </p>

<p>Here is information about the course 6 MEng program.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www-mtl.mit.edu/~penfield/pubs/meng-report-p.html[/url]”>http://www-mtl.mit.edu/~penfield/pubs/meng-report-p.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Now, let’s be clear. The above only applies to the MEng program in course 6. The other MEng programs at MIT do not have this seamless integration with the undergrad programs. {And if I may digress, I think that all MIT engineering departments should run a seamless MEng program similar to what course 6 has done - it’s really one of the best features of course 6}. </p>

<p>Also, course 2 does indeed run an MEng program, called the Master of Engineering in Manufacturing program. However, it is targeted to those who have several years of experience in the manufacturing industry, not to people straight out of undergrad. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www-me.mit.edu/GradProgram/GradDegrees.htm[/url]”>http://www-me.mit.edu/GradProgram/GradDegrees.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
<a href=“http://web.mit.edu/~meng-manufacturing/[/url]”>http://web.mit.edu/~meng-manufacturing/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I would also point out, for the sake of fairness, that while the MIT ChemE department believes in the ‘no-inbreeding’ rule, this is not just specific only to them. ChemE departments at lots of other schools believe it too. For example, the ChemE departments at Berkeley and Caltech adhere to the rule.</p>

<p>This is interesting. Thanks, Sakky.</p>

<p>Would it be possible to do the Course 6 MEng program along with a bachelor’s major in 18? Or is that beyond the range of human possibility?</p>

<p>It is possible.</p>

<p>“Consider the legendary Robert Woodward, Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry for being an pioneer of organic synthesis, including the synthesis of quinine, cholesterol, and chlorophyll. He got his SB in EE from MIT in one year, and then his PhD in EE from MIT the next year. Yeah, that’s right, that wasn’t a typo - he won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for being arguably the most brilliant organic synthetic chemist of his day, and yet his bachelor’s and doctoral degrees were in EE. Some people are just too brilliant.”</p>

<p>He obviously didn’t get laid much. :D</p>

<p>Hey all,</p>

<p>Do you think it is rather possible (notice that I never said feasible) to earn a double degree in both theoretical mathematics (option III) and physics, a minor in philosophy, maintain a moderate social life, and still manage to graduate in 4 years?</p>

<p>In short, of course.</p>

<p>I know several double-major, double-minor people. They manage to have a social life and participate in extracurriculars. It’s all about time management.</p>

<p>If you cross-register, will your transcript show exactly where you took the class?</p>