Duggars in the news.

^^^ Ummmm – that would be, it’s not.

Well, thanks that’s good to know - not an expert in their background as it relates to divorce!

For Josh’s 2nd subscription he paid the additional $250 money-back-affair-guarantee fee. Maybe his first subscription wasn’t ‘successful’.

It’s beyond me how somewhat well known figures of the time (Josh, Jared, Tiger, Jim Bakker) think they can get away with it without being recognized or discovered or someone spilling the beans.

And he fully admits it:
http://time.com/4005281/josh-duggar-ashley-madison/

I wonder what will be revealed next?!

Perhaps in the Quiverfull religion all will be forgiven and the status of those who forgive him will be raised up.

^^did you notice that he didn’t exactly “cop” to it?

What a mess. I feel so sorry for their kids, and I even feel sorry for Josh. Maybe if this issue had been handled the right way when he was a kid, this stuff might not have happened.

I can’t help but feel sorry for all of them.

^^Right - he said ‘unfaithful’ which is not exactly admitting to an extramarital affair.

At this point I’d love to see him go into (real) rehab, really figure out just how damaging his childhood was, and work through all of those issues with no guilt laid on him for being “disloyal” to his family of origin. He and Anna’s marriage and their own family may depend on it. He has to be honest with himself first and foremost before any true healing can happen.

JMO. And I’m NOT justifying his behavior as an adult.

Holy cow!

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/entertainment-eonline/20150820/b688297/

Josh Duggar Admits to Cheating on Wife Anna and Viewing Pornography: ‘‘I Have Been the Biggest Hypocrite Ever’’

IDK, saying you are ‘unfaithful’ usually means someone has cheated in some way, shape or form, whether it is an emotional affair, online sex,or a full blown affair. What happens with people like josh duggar and other public figures is they kind of figure they won’t be found out, they create a fantasy that they can have this hidden world and get away with it. What makes it even more ludicrous is when you have a family like the Duggars that wears their faith on their sleeve and heralds how much their faith drives their lives, how it makes them live to a higher standard and yep, judge others who aren’t them, or make pronouncements, and when the feet are found to be lead, they realize how fast it can make them fall.

My heart just breaks for this family.

This is just crazy. Almost like a teenage rebellion but occurring in his 30’s.

Seems hard (close to impossible) to recover from these events. I don’t believe his wife will be rushing to divorce considering she is not financially independent. Even if she stays with him the trust is broken. How could she ever trust a man like that after all that has happened? The future doesn’t look good for the family.

^^I don’t think his issues have ever been totally resolved.

Very messy situation. I hope his wife and children have some chance for a normal and healthy life with or without him.

Limited Legal Reasons to Get a Divorce or Legal Separation
For a covenant marriage, the court can only grant a divorce (“dissolution of marriage” in Arizona) or a legal separation for certain, limited reasons. To get a divorce, any one of the following eight reasons must be proved to the court (these are listed in Section 25-903 of the Arizona Revised Statutes):
The spouse against whom the divorce case is filed (the “Respondent”) has committed adultery.
The spouse against whom the the divorce case is filed (the “Respondent”) has committed a serious crime (“felony”) and has been sentenced to death or imprisonment.
For at least one year before the divorce case is filed, the spouse against whom the divorce case is filed (the “Respondent”) has been absent from (“abandoned”) the home where the married couple resided and refuses to return. The law allows an exception. A person may file for divorce by claiming that the other spouse has left the home and is expected to stay away for the one-year period. If the spouse has not been away for one year when the court papers are filed, the divorce case will not be dismissed by the court. Instead the case will be put on hold until the one-year requirement is met. During this time, the court still may grant and enforce temporary orders for things like child support, parenting time (formerly known as “visitation”) and spousal support (sometimes called “alimony” or “spousal maintenance”).
The spouse against whom the divorce case is filed (the “Respondent”) either has (1) physically or sexually abused the other spouse, a child or a relative of either spouse who lives permanently in the married couple’s home, or (2) committed domestic violence (defined in Section 13-3601 of the Arizona Revised Statutes) or emotional abuse.
The spouses have been living separate and apart without getting back together for at least two straight years before the divorce case is filed. The law allows an exception. A person may file for divorce by claiming it is expected the spouses will be separated for the two-year period. If the spouses have not been separated for two years when the court papers are filed, the divorce case will not be dismissed. Instead the case will be put on hold until the two-year requirement is met.
During the two-year period, the court may still grant and enforce temporary orders for things like child support, parenting time (formerly known as “visitation”) and spousal support (sometimes called “alimony” or “spousal maintenance”).
The spouses already have been granted a legal separation by the court, and they have been living separate and apart without getting back together for at least one year from the date of the legal separation.
The spouse against whom the divorce case is filed (the “Respondent”) has regularly abused drugs or alcohol.
The spouses both agree to a divorce.

I’lll bet lots more Ashley Madison users are about to be outed. According to the news article I read in WaPo, the largest number of users were in DC, many of the email addresses were government ones.

Sounds like Anna would have grounds for a divorce (in a covenant marriage). :confused:

Male users of Ashley Madison outnumber female users by a 6 to 1 margin? Really?

Sorry. I know that’s not strictly Duggar-related but I find that statistic interesting.

Ya’ know, lots of men – even happily married ones – look at pornography, and some percentage of men – even happily married ones – may have a dalliance. People aren’t perfect. I’m by no means condoning it, not at all. But what sucks about the Duggar situation is the holier-than-thou crap, the family values crap, the save-yourself-for-your-wedding-night crap. It’s all just crap.