Duke LAX case discussion continued.....;)

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<p>Which investigator? I’ve thought that Gottlieb was one of the “black hats.”</p>

<p>And, in response to Kluge, that I thought the source of Nifong’s gut feeling was Gottlieb which begs the questiono: were Gottlieb’s actions as defensible (based on the “suspect incompetence over deceit where incompetence will explain the facts” rule).</p>

<p>It was Ben Himan who said that to Nifong. He testified to that at Nifong’s disbarment proceedings, as well as telling the court (several times because they wanted him to speak more loudly–it actually became funny!) that Nifong said “We’re F*****” when he saw what the evidence was at one of the first meetings with Himan and Gottlieb.</p>

<p>From Variety

Link to Story <a href=“http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117973208.html?categoryid=14&cs=1[/url]”>http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117973208.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&lt;/a&gt;
Link to HBO Profile of Josh Maurer <a href=“http://www.hbo.com/films/panchovilla/cast/joshua_d_maurer.html[/url]”>http://www.hbo.com/films/panchovilla/cast/joshua_d_maurer.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Just thought I would stop in and put my two cents in with yesterday’s announcement. For those interested in reading the 155 page suit it is here:
<a href=“http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wtvd/duke%20lax%20lawsuit.pdf[/url]”>http://dig.abclocal.go.com/wtvd/duke%20lax%20lawsuit.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I would strongly disagree with Kluge’s explanation of the motivation behind this case. I think he is being influenced by his prior experience, and a false assumption that the law enforcement players in this drama had some ethical standards and actually were trying to find out what happened. That is a false assumption. It is not possible that anyone trained in law enforcement would believe in the guilt of these players, for more than two minutes.</p>

<p>The lawsuit clearly presents the facts, which support a systematic, deliberate attempt to frame three innocent boys for a crime that never occurred. This included a deliberate conspiracy to hide evidence, to make false statements to a grand jury,to intimidate alibi witnesses and attempt to obstruct justice, to obtain false identifications as to indict any random lacrosse players, and last but not least, Wilson and Gottlieb’s blatant attempts to manufacture false evidence. I don’t think there is a word of overstatement there. This all happened. It will all come out in the next 6 months. I’d say $30 million would have been a very cheap price to keep this under wraps. I would not be surprised at all to see federal criminal indictments follow the civil case.</p>

<p>The list of who my be involved is growing rapidly. Discovery is going to take a very long time. There seems to be a link to Duke through Crimestoppers.</p>

<p>kluge I hope I wasn’t hard on you. But I have dealt with the issues of this case in smaller pieces over the last decade. I hope the Durham Civil Suit goes to trail because it will be map for others to use. But at some point after the election cycle the pressure to settle will too great for discovery to continue.</p>

<p>richs73cas - from the second paragraph in the profile:

I thought maybe they were already working on the movie, but apparently that’s about some other case :)</p>

<p>I will be interested to see the direction the movie goes…</p>

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I saw that too. Then read it was about the Clifford Irving - Howard Hughes “Authorized biography” Hoax.</p>

<p>I’m concerned about the direction of the Movie too. Hopefully Taylor and KC have retained control over how the movie will portray the events.</p>

<p>As for the movie, this is the sort of thing that, I think, you don’t have to wait for to know how it will be. </p>

<p>And that is, in a word, dreadful.</p>

<p>“Instead of just three random guys on the team, let’s make them brothers.”</p>

<p>-“What?”</p>

<p>“You know, brothers. A set of identical twins and an older brother. No - Siamese twins!”</p>

<p>-“You can’t just re-write the story like that…”</p>

<p>“Sure we can - we have releases. So we make them Siamese twins. And instead of lacrosse - they’re curlers, and the whole thing is set in Montreal. In French! With subtitles!! Nuances like that worked for Gibson!”</p>

<p>-“Merde…”</p>

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<p>You are not expecting “To Kill a Mocking Bird”?</p>

<p>It could be a “12 Angry Men” though - I think if we went with Kluge’s Nifong it could be a good movie. There seems to be a possibililty though that Nifong (and a greater possiblity about the movie Nifong) is not that complicated.</p>

<p>If the movie-character Nifong (as opposed to the real-life Nifong) - as well as a number of other characters (Brodhead, the three defendants, et al.) - is not complicated, then the movie will be simply all too predictable and insipid. Two-dimensional characters; a battle between good and evil; the defendants, brimming with grace under pressure, being heckled as they walk across campus; a tearful mother (or two); heroic defense lawyers spouting off at the drop of, well, just about anything . . . yawn. And no suspense whatsoever (how could there be?).</p>

<p>And the movie, trust me, won’t be complicated.</p>

<p>Hey - I’m in the book so I am holding out high hopes…</p>

<p>Animal House <a href=“National Lampoon's Animal House | Watch Page | DVD, Blu-ray, Digital HD, On Demand, Trailers, Downloads | Universal Pictures Home Entertainment”>National Lampoon's Animal House | Watch Page | DVD, Blu-ray, Digital HD, On Demand, Trailers, Downloads | Universal Pictures Home Entertainment; With out of control College hi-jinks, all in good fun. ( Unlikely )</p>

<p>or</p>

<p>Rashomon <a href=“http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042876/plotsummary[/url]”>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042876/plotsummary&lt;/a&gt;
Using the technique of telling a story from many dramatically different perspectives. With each narrative being considered as a possibility, until the truth is made evident. (Perhaps the best we can hope for.)</p>

<p>As epistrophy points out, a one sided manifesto would be seen as a boring propaganda piece.</p>

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<p>So, have you sent them any suggestions for casting???</p>

<p>I’ll know I’m in the movie when the trades publish, “SEEKING: dumpy middle-aged actor of Scandinavian background / coloration. Must be able to pronounce the word ‘blog’ correctly.”</p>

<p>Duke Egr, why focus on the dumpy? I’m sure you are exaggerating anyway. While you’re at it, shave off a few years. Heath Ledger, perhaps?</p>

<p>DukeEgr93~they should cast YOU to play yourself!! What could be better??</p>

<p>“Cameo appearance by Dr. G.”</p>

<p>I can see the credits now.</p>

<p>Well - so long as they don’t make me shave my beard. I’ve grown rather attached…</p>

<p>Not even cast and already acting like a prima donna . . . .</p>