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<p>Okay, this guy had never been in the US before in his life. So, we are to believe that he coincidentally decided to visit relatives for the first time ever after being exposed to a dead Ebola patient in Liberia and soon after went to a hospital and got nothing after which said relatives called the CDC to complain about his lack of treatment. That does not sound unsophisticated to me, at all. And, yeah, the hospital really screwed up,. But, there is something wrong with a system that allowed this to happen in the first place. imho.</p>
<p>13 other patients were tested for Ebola, but this is the only guy who tested positive. Yeah, it really sounds like this guy failed to disclose that he was in close contact with someone who had just died from Ebola and I am SURE Things would have been different if he had disclosed this info. I feel very bad for those he was in contact with after he had symptoms, knowing full well it was likely Ebola.</p>
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<p>It stops someone already sick and infectious. But they can get around up to 21 days after contacting the disease. That’s why I don’t understand how CDC had claimed that chances of Ebola in the US is “remote”. It’s not something anyone can say with certainty. That just makes people mistrust government.</p>
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<p>He quit his job in Liberia shortly before his trip to the U.S. It sure sounds to me like he knew he was likely to get sick from his Ebola exposure so he came here for the best chance at treatment. Call me cynical.</p>
<p>CDC says the guy was in contact with 80 people. I don’t know how many of those were during the symptomatic phase.
The latest seems to be that the guy was also visiting his girfriend in Texas, she’s the one with 5 kids who are now being monitored.</p>
<p>CNN just reported it was his first trip. But, who knows? Call me cynical, too. </p>
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<p>Or maybe even more darkly, he’s a dry-run for a terrorism scheme: </p>
<p>1) deliberately infect a bunch of jihadist volunteers
2) put them on airplanes to western countries before they’re symptomatic
3) cause deep economic damage from the ensuing panic (isn’t that what’s happening in Dallas now? Hysterical parents pulling their kids out of school?)</p>
<p>I should write a scary novel 8-X </p>
<p>He threw up in the parking lot. Did anyone clean it up? If not, how long could it infect?</p>
<p>Why is it just today, that health officials have ordered his family to stay at home? I said that day one. We still seem to be behind the curve on this. It was common sense to quarantine the folks that he actually lived with, and anyone with close contact. We still seem to be reacting, instead of being proactive.</p>
<p>Our government at every level is drowning in incompetence. I don’t have much faith in any of it.</p>
<p>I have to agree our government doesn’t inspire confidence lately. Why would CDC be any different?</p>
<h1>188 I think 2 hours to 2 days is how long the virus can survive on surfaces depending on conditions. Sunlight would help degrade it. I hope they poured bleach on it though.</h1>
<p>Having animals contract the virus is a major concern because that is how it becomes entrenched in a particular geographic area, so not a good think to have vomit around and about even if people don’t come into contact with it.</p>
<p>Good point about the animals. Presumably, no one cleaned up the parking lot. It’s this kind of sloppiness that worries me that no sophitication in medical advance can prevent. He was throwing up all over before he was diagonized. How did the family clean up his mess? Just put it in the garbage?</p>
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The explanation is that CDC didn’t say that. Make sure you actually read what CDC did say before you repeat what some anti-government yakker is saying.</p>
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<p>Capitalization is mine. “anti-government yakker” is the kind of attitude that leads to complacency.</p>
<p>I would feel much more comfortable if our government issues guidelines how to deal with this just in case than if they keep assuring us that nothing bad is going to happen. Nothing bad is likely to happen. But I would still like to know how they cleaned after him before he was hospitalized. That 2 hours to 2 days rule probably applies something other than in the vomit. I would think virus can survive far longer in a vomit.</p>
<p>The CDC has zero control over many things - there is a lot of fiction out there what powers it has. They can’t march in in those moon suits and close down the air travel. They can’t simply have someone under arrest in their house… They are allowed to come and deal with the mess after it hit the proverbial fan. </p>
<p>Who the bleep issued visa to this guy? Was it a fiancé visa?! If not, the guy was clearly committing visa fraud.</p>
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<p>Something more useful than “wash your hands.”
Enterovirus 68? Wash your hands.
Ebola? Wash your hands.</p>