Ebola diagnosed in Dallas

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<p>@scholarme, lol, look what fashion trend u started-- Tyvek!</p>

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<p>Seriously, Sheldon was onto something with his “bus pants” - the bus I’m in is quite filthy. :)</p>

<p>How many people would ditch their habit of wearing their street shoes in the house because of Ebola?</p>

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<p>This morning when I woke up I had several alerts on my phone from the local news agency saying “All schools in Arlington closed (30 minutes from Dallas). Long list of Dallas schools closed. See wfaa.com for list of closings.” I thought, “OMG, everyone is totally losing it and going completely crazy.” Then I opened up the story and saw that we have widespread power outages from storms which came through DFW last night. My particular area just got a little rain, so it wasn’t forefront in my mind. </p>

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<p>Sheets and towels can be bagged up and not used. But I’m thinking it’s a one bathroom apartment and I’m assuming that woman and the three men in that apartment are still using the bathroom that Duncan vomited in, had diarrhea in, etc. etc. Did they douse the bathroom in bleach? They are also using the same dishware and utensils he used. Does dishwashing soap kill the virus? What happens when the virus goes down the drain or into the sewer system? </p>

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<p>How ironic is it that tobacco is actually capable of being used to save lives.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/health/ebola-tobacco-plant/index.html?hpt=hp_t1”>http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/health/ebola-tobacco-plant/index.html?hpt=hp_t1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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I’m not so sure about that, if these people are quarantined in an apartment which contains still-active virus. Couldn’t they get infected TODAY? And then still need as many as 21 days for that to show up? I don’t know why they wouldn’t contain them in a CLEAN place? This doesn’t really make sense to me. </p>

<p>Also, people have mentioned the cleaning of the sidewalk. Since the virus survives in animal/bat/etc. populations, it seems to me that 2 days would be plenty of time for little critters to have carted off some and for it to have ended up in nearby bats. Not that Americans are regularly bit by bats, but I don’t think the “authorities” are taking this seriously enough.</p>

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<p>sylvan, bats do not feed off trash on sidewalks. They catch insects for food. I’d be more concerned with rats and mice. </p>

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<p>You are completely right.
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<p>Btw, on bleach - does anyone know if household bleach will be enough? This stuff is pretty dilute, at the most 3%.
That stuff I was treading on worldwide janitor recommended around 10%</p>

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<p>The virus doesn’t live on objects for more than a couple of days at most - that’s what I heard Dr. Gupta say. So they can’t get infected today since he hasn’t been in the house in four days. But let’s not mix facts in with paranoia. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-us-reader-questions/index.html”>http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-us-reader-questions/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>BTW… the article linked above addresses a lot of myths that people here have been getting all worked up over.</p>

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<p>Regular store-bought Chlorox or other bleach is very powerful if it is relatively fresh. We actually dilute it to decontaminate surfaces, otherwise it will destroy the surface itself. </p>

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<p>Unlike some bacteria that form spores that are hard to “kill” (e.g., C diff), most viruses can be destroyed with regular bleach because they do not have the protective shell around their generic material like spore-forming bacteria do. I hate to sound really gross, but possible reason for the use of really concentrated bleach is to chemically digest all organic matter to get to the virus inside the matter (like inside the undigested thrown up food). If the contaminated solids are removed from surfaces prior to bleaching and placed into biohazard containers for incineration, regular bleach wiping will do. Porous things like mattresses need to be destroyed. </p>

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<p>MODERATOR’S NOTE: If political comments begin to invade this thread, it will be shut down and infractions will be given. No second warnings. Keep the political stuff out.</p>

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<p>The incessant drumbeat for budget-cutting is coming home to roost:</p>

<p>[Congressional budget cuts hurt Ebola response](<a href=“http://m.wesh.com/politics/van-hollen-budget-cuts-hurting-ebola-response/28378344”>http://m.wesh.com/politics/van-hollen-budget-cuts-hurting-ebola-response/28378344&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

<p>If we refuse to pay for something, we can’t be outraged that it’s not there when we need it. </p>

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<p>BTW, when we use bleach, we use “10% bleach” which is actually store-bought bleach diluted 10X. </p>

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<p>Possible Ebola case in Howard Univ Hospital (DC)
This is someone who recently travelled to Nigeria, which makes me more hopeful that it is a false alarm, since Nigeria is one of the few countries that seem to have a handle on controlling Ebola.</p>

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<p>This article makes very good points. Why the Ebola Epidemic IS stoppable: <a href=“The Ebola Epidemic Is Stoppable | The New Yorker”>The Ebola Epidemic Is Stoppable | The New Yorker;

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<p>Haven’t read the whole thread or paid much attention on TV - but where is the Texas Dept. of Health in this? They should be the lead agency, imo. </p>

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<p>I found a good short cheat sheet on bleach here
<a href=“http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060213/bleach.html”>http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060213/bleach.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>So the Howard students are in a panic, and twitter doesn’t help with that age group. There are helicopters flyin over which is adding to the hysteria. </p>

<p>Also a potential case in Atlanta. </p>

<p><a href=“http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/report-inmate-at-cobb-county-jail-being-tested-for-ebola/”>http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/report-inmate-at-cobb-county-jail-being-tested-for-ebola/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;