<p>Cooper likes to throw around tear jerkers. Wasn’t he the one who accused a white neighbor during Hurricane Sany or Irene that the guy didn’t help a poor mom, a Jamaican, who had her two boys swept away a couple of years ago? If you closely it didn’t happen as he was reporting. The boys were already gone and Cooper made it like because of him the boys were lost. The neighbor guy was getting death threats from all over the world.</p>
<p>I remember that incident. I don’t remember Cooper specifically talking about it. I don’t have cable, and I dislike TV news in general. Are you saying that the guy did not refuse to let the woman in?</p>
<p>No, the guy did refuse. He thought the woman was a guy and she or he was alone. Cooper reported that the woman was with two boys and the boys were swept away while she was trying to get help from him, namely the boys were swept away from his patio. Except there was no water damage to his house. It was dry. If the boys made to his house, they would have been ok inside or outside. </p>
<p>I don’t want to get into that here, but zoosermom, who lives on Staten Island, had some excellent insight into that situation that disagrees with your interpretation.</p>
<p>Iglooo, no offense, but those facts aren’t quite correct. What I will say, though, is that the house in question couldn’t have been dry because it is below sea level. That area is in a little bowl where the ocean is in front and above them and the the highest point on the Eastern seaboard between Maine and Florida is behind them. If you spit it floods. However, I didn’t ever see the Anderson Cooper piece (as we had no power at the time) so I can’t speak to what he said.</p>
<p>Was Duncan a care provider? It isn’t clear to me why he was taking care of the pregnant woman who later died of Ebola.</p>
<p>The father of the journalist who was just diagnosed was on CNN. Said he talked to his son and he thinks he might have contracted it from assisting with spraying disinfectant on chairs at a hospital and some splashed back on his face. Odd task for a journalist to be undertaking. </p>
<p>From the picture, his house had at least 5-6 steps above the street level. It being a relatively new construction, I would think the living space had to be above the flood level. That’s what zoning requires where I live. Besides, the patio was enclosed with a railing and there were no visible water damage in the picture taken just the day after. If the water was gushing around his house, there’s no way anyone can navigate fast moving water 5-6 steps deep to reach his door or patio.</p>
<p>Back to the program.</p>
<p>I’m sorry, but you are incorrect and making assumptions that aren’t supported in the particular area. What zoning requires in other areas and zoning tolerates in THAT area are two different things. Which is why the governor is buying out that entire neighborhood, so no residences can ever be built there again.</p>
<p>The journalist isn’t a journalist, exactly. He’s a .freelance photographer who was just hired a couple of days ago although I do think he has done some work with NBC in the past. He was working with Dr. Nancy is not an employee of the network. And, the flood kids were lost before that woman started knocking on doors. She had them in her car. But, it’s true that no-one helped.</p>
<p>zooser, it’s possible the picture quoted in the article was showing a wrong house. The house I saw in the picture sat pretty high above the street. Did it ever get cleared up exactly where and when the boys were swept away? Was it from his door steps?</p>
<p>Duncan was a helpful neighbor. The ambulance didn’t come. So he helped tocarry the woman to the taxi and rode in the front while the sick woman and her relatives in the back. That makes me think it must be very easy to be infected.</p>
<p>Can we keep this thread on the Ebola related issues, instead of arguing about the Sandy issue?</p>
<p>@harvestmoon1, Duncan wasn’t a care provider, he was a neighbor. The woman was got to where she couldn’t walk so a family member asked Duncan to help transport her to the hospital. They thought she was having a miscarriage. I think it’s entirely possible that Duncan had no clue he was exposed. He only thought he was helping a pregnant woman in pain.</p>
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The thing is that the entire street, neighborhood, are below sea level. It’s a very weird geographic area and permanent homes were never meant to be built there and shouldn’t have been.</p>
<p>But I am going to take this back to Ebola.</p>
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<p>That’s the crucial point. Whatever he did or didn’t do, he wasn’t instrumental to their loss. Cooper reported that the boys were swept away from the guy’s patio if I remeber correctly. Cooper linked the boys’ death directly to the guy’s inaction and death threats began to pour in.</p>
<p>I said this before. If she didn’t have boys with her and if the guy thought she was a man, would you open the door? I don’t know if I would not knowing what was going on. Open my door to a guy out alone in a stormy night? </p>
<p>Sure back to the program. I brought it up to make a point about the reporting standard.</p>
<p>The cab driver said that the neighbor woman was bleeding from her mouth when he picked them up and he was told that she’s bitten her tongue. </p>
<p>I think that it is possible that he didn’t know but I also think that he should have know or suspected. However, to me that is water under the bridge at this point. What bothers me is that the screening process is so dependent on honesty as well as education. I don’t see how those airport questions are at all valid when there is incentive to not tell the truth and so much confusion, disinformation and superstition about transmission. The Americans who were infected have mostly said that they don’t know how or when they were directly exposed. They were taking precautions to a degree and couldn’t pinpoint an obvious moment like a needle stick or being vomited on. There are likely many people who think they haven’t been exposed who actually have been.</p>
<p>As far as our health system’s ability to cope I feel like it was so far so good when the infections happened in Africa and known infected people were brought here for treatment under highly controlled circumstance. Already we have seen that the response isn’t so clean and efficient when the diagnosis and containment is dependent on a patchwork of local systems. We have the medical resource to treat people in small, organized numbers but I feel like the system could easily be overwhelmed and break down if there was some kind of broader exposure. Already our emergency rooms have trouble finding beds for people and enough staff to treat them. If we are already understaffed I can’t imagine dealing with an influx of isolation patients all at once.</p>
<p>I can certainly understand the need to eradicate this virus at its source. But how we do that is where I diverge from others. I have an issue with sending 3000 U.S. troops to West Arica. The Gates Foundation has already pledge 500 million to fight Ebola and I understand that some of this money will go directly to West Africa. And I have no problem with the U.S. government sending money as well. These people need resources and we can give them that. But sending our troops over I think goes a step too far. We should be helping them help themselves not risking the lives of our own citizens. </p>
<p>An NPR guest is saying 21 day quarantine is really the only way to stop it. They do already quarantine health workers coming out the affected area fro 21 days. </p>
<p>Agree . . . if the health care providers are having trouble staying safe it isn’t fair to expect troops to have to be in that situation. At least in war you can fight back in accordance with your training. I would not want my kid to go and wouldn’t expect someone else’s to either.</p>
<p>Well they are sending more, another 1,000.</p>
<p>So wondering if they are worried in Belgium or Washington D.C. Apparently Duncan flew from Liberia to Belgium, had a 7 hour layover, then flew to DC with a 3 hour layover and then on to Dallas. </p>