<p>The dead bodies of Ebola patients are highly contagious. What matters is what exactly she did.</p>
<p>One article said she changed his diaper, and then removed items from his room after he died.</p>
<p>Iglooo, wild speculation and fear mongering, then. For example, musing about mice and rats getting infected from ingesting bodily fluids in the apartment parking lot. Of course, it would have been better if it hadn’t taken days for local officials to get around to cleaning it up. There’s a known problem which we could be talking about.</p>
<p>I don’t see how flu vaccines relate at all to discussing Ebola.</p>
<p>I have followed this thread, but not participated. I have relatives in Spain and visit there frequently.</p>
<p>As of now, in Madrid there are 4 people in isolation. The nurse’s assistant, who has been diagnosed, her husband as a precaution, a nurse who also had attended the already dead, also precautionary at this point, and the fourth is a Spanish engineer who recently returned from Nigeria.</p>
<p>Updates are being given throughout the day.</p>
<p>Also, the infected did not go away on vacation, monitored herself, and basically stayed at home. There is much outcry from people both in and out of the medical community in Spain. 50 people are also being “monitored” because they work in the hospitals involved.</p>
<p>Well, I don’t see any freaking out… But, it shouldn’t be all that surprising after men in space suits drag a vomiting man off a plane on a stretcher and a 3-day HAZMAT clean up of an evacuated apartment is televised. The flu doesn’t get this sort of official reaction, at all. </p>
<p>I though the known problem was Ebola in the US. That seems to be what’s being discussed. Carry on. </p>
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Not. From the hot zone (Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea), you cannot fly non-stop to the US. </p>
<p>Nigeria. which appears to have the crisis under control, has non-stop service to the US and to many other global destinations.</p>
<p>List of Monrovia, Liberia airline service:
<a href=“Roberts International Airport - Wikipedia”>Roberts International Airport - Wikipedia;
<p>List of Freetown, Sierra Leone airline service:
<a href=“Freetown International Airport - Wikipedia”>Freetown International Airport - Wikipedia;
<p>List of Conakry, Guinea airline service:
<a href=“Ahmed Sékou Touré International Airport - Wikipedia”>Ahmed Sékou Touré International Airport - Wikipedia;
<p>List of Lagos, Nigeria airline service:
<a href=“Murtala Muhammed International Airport - Wikipedia”>Murtala Muhammed International Airport - Wikipedia;
<p>Direct <> non-stop. The guy in Dallas cam here via Brussels, but that’s considered direct, isn’t it?
He only had a layover there - he did not have to stay in Brussels and buy a new ticket.
I’m not a frequent flyer though, so I could very well be using the wrong terms.</p>
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<p>Here’s how: For all the palpitations, speculation, and wild theories about Ebola, the chances of any of us getting it are vanishingly small. By contrast, 50,000 Americans will die from flu this year, and no one is having vapors about that.</p>
<p>Ha! </p>
<p><a href=“How To Protect Yourself Against Ebola”>How To Protect Yourself Against Ebola; </p>
<p>" By contrast, 50,000 Americans will die from flu this year, and no one is having vapors about that." </p>
<p>False. Here’s a link to the actual statistics and an explanation. Also, there is not an Ebola vaccine so it’s much more comparable to the mysterious Enterovirus than basic seasonal influenza which primarily kills people who are already vulnerable or suffer a secondary infection. And, 50-thousand is the absolute high end of the estimates and certainly not the norm. I don’t know why anyone would suggest it was, actually. Unless they were just misinformed.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm”>http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm</a></p>
<p>People are always more afraid of the unknown threat rather than the known. People are also more interested in the ‘new’. Ebola is new and like “Jaws” was the subject of a book and a movie, which ramps up public concern. </p>
<p>The flu kills a lot of people but it doesn’t have a 50 to 90% mortality rate. It usually kills those who are already frail, the elderly and those with health problems. </p>
<p>Diseases that are people to people are also more concerning. Perhaps only one person in history has ever survived rabies, but you have to be bitten by an animal and there are shots. Hantavirus is very deadly. Three (?) visitors to Yosemite died of it two years ago. It’s spread by infected mouse droppings, so the park tore down the cabins that had harbored the mice, shored up the foundations of the others to keep mice out and sent warnings to everyone who had visited the park that year. I had been there at that time, but stayed in my own mouseless tent and wasn’t concerned. </p>
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<p>So basically, it’s just a way to tell people to stop talking about Ebola? Because any discussion is “having the vapors”?</p>
<p>Right? Are we not supposed to have a discussion about Ebola for some reason? I don’t get this at all. If someone would like to start a thread on flu shots feel free. Sheesh!</p>
<p>33,561 people died in car accidents in 2012 (down from a high of 51,093 in 1979), and everyone keeps driving. I don’t understand my friends who are scared to death of planes, but don’t hesitate to drove across town to get to the airport.</p>
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Funny. I haven’t seen any of that. Discussion, yes. But no hysteria, palpitations or panic. In fact this is a remarkably restrained thread. In light of the fact that there are no relatives of the victim here or scientists in the specific field of Ebola, much of what is discussed is speculation. There was an interesting article in the LA Times today that discussed what actually isn’t known about this particular strain of Ebola versus the information that is being disseminated to the public as gospel. In light of the things that aren’t known, prudence and an extreme of caution are certainly warranted. Personally, I am more worried about enterovirus, but I have shared an emergency room several times in the last week with members of the largest Liberian community in the US, as has my critically ill mother, so I hope our hospital is cautious because I know two things from personal information: (1) that the members of the Liberian community are very anxious (rightly so, God bless them) and are seeking medical attention very quickly now, and (2) that the travel of members of that community between Liberia (or other countries) and the US continues very regularly.</p>
<h1>809 saintfan, that Onion piece is funny. I LOLed at this:</h1>
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<p>Here is that article:</p>
<p><a href=“Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed”>Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed;
<p>If I have it, it’s a reasonable concern; if you have it, it’s panic. It’s kind of like if I complain about something, it’s sensibly pointing out a problem, but if you complain, you are “screaming” or “whining.”</p>
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Yeah, just like that!</p>