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<p>He wants a WHITE kitten, not a calico kitten. Loved, LOVED that film.</p>
<p>Shouldn’t we be more worried about enterovirus D68?</p>
<p>A four year old died in my state, with no symptoms the day before except red itchy eyes.</p>
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<p>A direct flight involves a stop, but you are riding the same exact metal tube from Point A to Point B, then from Point B to Point C.</p>
<p>A non-stop is exactly what it sounds like: it’s one plane and it goes from Point A to Point B without stopping.</p>
<p>A code-share ticket is when Airline-X buy seats on Airline-Y and puts its own flight number on that flight. A single flight might be code-shared by several airlines. E.g., a Singapore Airlines Flight might be code-shared by United and Lufthansa. But even if your ticket says United flight0000, you still have to go to the Sing gate to check-in because it’s actually a Sing airplane.</p>
<p>The Dallas ebola guy flew neither a direct flight nor a non-stop from Liberia to the US. He rode aboard 3 different airplanes:</p>
<p>1) a Brussels Airlines operated flight from Monrovia to Brussels, then got off that plane in BRU
2) a United Airlines operated flight from Brussels to Wash Dulles, then got off the plane in IAD
3) a United Airlines operated flight from Wash Dulles to DFW, then got off the plane in DFW</p>
<p>Perhaps it was a codeshare, because United & Brussels Airlines are both in the Star Alliance. But It is immaterial that he didn’t have to buy the United segments while he was on the ground in BRU. I’ve flown some pretty weird airline combinations that were booked in advance. </p>
<p>I repeat: THERE ARE NO NON-STOP FLIGHTS FROM LIBERIA, GUINEA, SIERRA LEONE TO THE UNITED STATES. To have prevented this guy from flying to the US, we would have to have banned his flight from Brussels, too. I don’t think we’re about to ban flights from EU countries.</p>
<p>Precisely, GMT. Should flights between the US an Spain be banned now? </p>
<p>“The family of the woman, Marthalene Williams, 19, took her by taxi to a hospital with Mr. Duncan’s help after failing to get an ambulance. Ms. Williams was turned away for lack of space in the hospital’s Ebola treatment ward, the family said, and they took her back home in the evening, hours before she died. Mr. Duncan helped carry her because she was no longer able to walk. In the taxi, Ms. Williams, who was seven months pregnant, had been convulsing.”</p>
<p>From the New York Times. He obviously knew he had been exposed to Ebola. Louise should be mad at him, not the US and Liberian governments.</p>
<p>“From the New York Times. He obviously knew he had been exposed to Ebola.”</p>
<p>NYTimes, while being more credible than some other sources, is not exactly the holy bible of truth. He was taking her to the hospital. Did he know that he was taking her to the Ebola ward? I’m not defending the guy, just saying that there are more than enough theories around, and not all plausible theories point that he had the knowledge. </p>
<p>I’m not attacking the guy. But, I haven’t heard anything else that makes sense. The wedding thing seems to have bit the dust… </p>
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<p>Maybe. Go ahead and start a thread on entrovirus D68.</p>
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<p>If this is true, he had to know. </p>
<p>I thought that’s what I said - it’s not a non-stop flight.</p>
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<p>No. Just passengers originating from the affected area. They can identify them wherever they are flying from. Why are you guys so eager to take sides anyway? </p>
<p>Good question. Can’t we all be anti-Ebola? </p>
<p>I’m not starting an enterovirus D68 thread. My point is that people are getting all freaky about Ebola, which has very little presence in the US, and kids are already dying from enterovirus D68.</p>
<p>My friend works in the next town from the kid that died, and she’s worried about Ebola…</p>
<p>Maybe we trust doctors working on entrovirus a bit more than our yakking gov that they have Ebola under control. I don’t know about you but I feel better to see doctors admitting that they don’t know and working hard to find answers than when I see someone claiming they have a solution when it is clear there’s not much one can do. Even yesterday the prez was talking about how they will tighten the screening at the airport as if it can stop the disease. There isn’t much screening can do to stop the virus from traveling, tightened or not. It won’t catch asymptomatic patients or patients with symptoms who took medications to control symptoms. So what does tightened screening amount to?</p>
<p>Enterovirus thread
<a href=“Stanford Dr : possible link between enterovirus-68 & polio-like symptoms - Parent Cafe - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/1691118-stanford-dr-possible-link-between-enterovirus-68-polio-like-symptoms.html</a></p>
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<p>So tell me. How are u going to identify where passengers originated? You will only know if the traveller is a simpleton and booked the multi-segment trip as a single itinerary. </p>
<p>This dude flew 2 different airlines. To avoid detection of his originating airport, it would be a very trivial matter to buy the Monrovia segment from Brussels Airlines. Then buy the USA routing separately from United. All United would know is that its pax is originated in BRU.</p>
<p>In this case, if the traveller isn’t travelling on a passport from one of the affected countries, then short of thumbing thru every page of a person’s passport and reading all the exit stamps, there’s no way of knowing the origination point of someone’s trip. </p>
<p>Then there are people who carry more than one passport and not just from different countries. Plenty of American int’l frequent flyers have 2 legal American passports: one to use while the other is awaiting a visa in some consular black hole.</p>
<p>I’m not taking sides in this. I’m just pointing out how easy it is to obscure your origination point.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/06/epidemiologist-stop-the-flights-now/”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/06/epidemiologist-stop-the-flights-now/</a></p>
<p>Second nurse’s assistant admitted to hospital in Spain showing symptoms.</p>
<p>Here’s a sobering thought: the number of cases in West Africa is doubling very rapidly and if not stopped they are predicting as many as 1.4 million by January. Out of some 5000 cases so far, already we have a case entering the US and at least one in Spain. What will happen when there are 280 times as many cases in West Africa? </p>
<p>Better to check passports and ‘thumb through’ passports than deal with Ebola patients coming in. That’s also easier than taking temperatures, IMO. If we stopped issuing visas to the U. S. to residents of the hot zone countries, then it would only be medical personnel who would be travelling out. Exposed medical people could be quarantined. Journalists also, like Nancy Snyderman.</p>
<p>Heard an interview tonight with the parents of the photojournalist who’s in Nebraska (IIRC). The father said that the son isn’t really as sure as media reports imply, that he got it from disinfecting a car.</p>
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<p><a href=“Father of Rhode Island Journalist With Ebola: He’s Determined to Get Better – NECN”>Father of Rhode Island Journalist With Ebola: He’s Determined to Get Better – NECN;