<p>All of this true but how many people go to the ER and get diagnosed wrongly the first time? I don’t think they are all suing hospitals.These people were complaining about one thing or another from day one. If I was a doctor this is about the time I would be opening a med spa.</p>
<p>I am wondering about the girlfriend and others that he shared the apartment with. We hear so little and I just cannot imagine that these people are not infected. If they are not then I feel a lot more confident that this disease is controllable.</p>
<p>They’re being monitored daily and talking to CNN quite a bit. Louise is angry. But, not sick.</p>
<p>I am guessing that Ebola was not in their mind. They went through the Ebola training mechanically and the concept of actually receiving an Ebola patient may have been still abstract and didn’t make the connection. It certainly was not gross negligence.</p>
<p>Why has the CDC not sent bulletins to every first responder in Texas on how to handle contamination? This paragraph in the article on the Frisco deputy jumped out at me:</p>
<p>"Frisco’s fire chief said he was still figuring out how to decontaminate the department’s people and gear. “We have calls in to the Centers for Disease Control,” Piland said. “We’re also working with our public health officials here in Denton County. We’re going to get their recommendations on the proper decontamination procedures for the ambulances.”</p>
<p>Why don’t they know what to do already? Isn’t that their job?</p>
<p>“I can imagine a lot of scenarios where the triage nurse would be compelled to do more than just duly note it in some medical notes.”</p>
<p>Absolutely! When I was a teen, I was hit with mumps. I had no idea why my neck was swollen, but it looked pretty bad to me - like something that needed attention. My parents were out of town, so I decided that I would not bother them with this relatively small stuff, so I instead of going to school that morning I went to our clinic and checked in with the receptionist. As soon as the lady saw my face, she alarmed one of the nurses. I was taken to a room right away, and the nurses took down the names of everyone who was in the waiting room, mostly moms with kids, and made sure they knew that they could have been exposed to a nasty disease even though I only walked by them. 
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<p>Thank goodness for vaccines - mumps is almost unheard of now. Fingers crossed, a vaccine will be developed against Ebola that should put this thing out of existence, like smallpox.</p>
<p>I was at urgent care this evening getting the kid’s throat swabbed for strep (negative) and they had questions about travel on the intake form specific to West Africa. They had signs up about Ebola symptoms and procedure and the doctor asked separately about travel history. I liked that they are practicing asking everyone. </p>
<p>When it rains, it pours…</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/health/uganda-marburg-death/?cid=ob_articlesidebarall&iref=obinsite”>http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/health/uganda-marburg-death/?cid=ob_articlesidebarall&iref=obinsite</a></p>
<p>And now there is a protocol for handling burials of people who died of Ebola in the US:</p>
<p><a href=“Redirect| Ebola (Ebola Virus Disease) | CDC”>http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/guidance-safe-handling-human-remains-ebola-patients-us-hospitals-mortuaries.html</a></p>
<p>Deputy’s son says his father did not have a fever when he went to the urgent care clinic, but simply had “a stomach ache.”</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/08/son-possible-second-ebola-patient-didnt-mean-to-cause-panic/16942631/”>http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/08/son-possible-second-ebola-patient-didnt-mean-to-cause-panic/16942631/</a></p>
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<p>I don’t think it registered in their mind. His fever was only 101 and they weren’t expecting it in spite of the training. We all do stupid things sometimes for no good reason.Just the other day, I got my car dented pretty badly. I knew or should have known there wasn’t enough space to pull in. But I pulled in anyway. I was just stupid. I don’t know how responsible we hold someone for their mistake. We need to punish gross negligence but some mistakes we should forgive.</p>
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<p>I stopped watching CNN after Anderson Cooper and also Peirce Morgan. It creeped me out how much they doctor their interviewees. I was getting enraged at the social injustice they were exposing until I saw how much preparation they put in to doctor up their interviewees. I don’t like to be manipulated even if to advocate my beliefs.</p>
<p>^^^I do think that there was (understandably) an unconscious “that happens somewhere else” mentality working. Ebola has NEVER been here before. And when it comes, it will happen “THERE.” “There” is anywhere but here. </p>
<p>If you had told me ebola would come to America, I would have said “of course it will.” But I would not have thought in a million years that Dallas would be where it would land first. </p>
<p>Don’t like how the press is trying to stir up outrage that Duncan wasn’t given the same treatment as the American ebola patients treated in the US. Some critics are even trying to make it a racial discrimination issue. </p>
<p>The American ebola patients were diagnosed in African and medevac’d in quarantine. The hospitals in the US were alerted in advance to prepare for the patient.</p>
<p>In Duncan’s case, he was evasive about his exposure in Liberia to an ebola victim. The Dallas hospital had no notice of his arrival.</p>
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<p>What specifically are they saying wasn’t done for him, aside from giving him zmapp, which the doctors here had no access to?</p>
<p>They were supposed to just throw random drugs at him, call them “experimental” and that would prove he was getting care as equally good as the Atlanta patients?</p>
<p>Seems related -200 airplane cabin cleaners go on strike in NYC
<a href=“http://www.ny1.com/content/news/216920/airplane-cabin-cleaners-go-on-strike/”>http://www.ny1.com/content/news/216920/airplane-cabin-cleaners-go-on-strike/</a></p>
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Besides, not getting unapproved, experimental drugs earlier in his treatment, they are also complaining he didn’t get a transfusion of blood from an ebola survivor (yeah, like US hospitals regularly stock ebola-survivor blood in different blood types…) </p>
<p>^^^Thus far, such criticism has been minimal. That could change but if people review it objectively, there wasn’t much that could be done upon Duncan’s return to the hospital.</p>
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<p>I think so too, though the doctor is the “boss” and will have to take the responsibility. As we add layers of complexity to medicine (and everything else), there are more points where the whole thing can break down. </p>
<p>I agree with you that the nurse should have made really really sure that the doctor knew about the Liberia travel.</p>
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<p>Every patient who’s been treated in the US has gotten blood from a survivor, except Duncan. Every patient who’s gotten donated blood has survived. Kent Brantley was asked if he’d donate to Duncan and said yes. No one ever followed up.</p>