Ebola diagnosed in Dallas

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<p>That’s horrible. That woman deserves more a simple lawsuit.</p>

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<p>“Then why go to the ER at all? He only reportedly had a stomache-ache that day. No other symptoms.”</p>

<p>Because he didn’t have a doctor to go to and he felt pretty lousy. People, who don’t have doctors, go to the ER all the time with those symptoms. </p>

<p>If you were traveling in a foreign country where would you go if you felt ill? </p>

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<p>Probably, nowhere for quite a while. But, I have witnessed more than my share of untreated stomach ailments. So, there is that. Well, unless I suspected a deadly virus. Then I might go somewhere more quickly.</p>

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<p>I’d say if they suspected Ebola only after the first ER visit, I’d think they’d go back tol the hospital and spell it out this time. I may call CDC if the hospital misdiagionized again, not before.</p>

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<p>Okay, lets do this another way. If you have a house guest who just flew in from Liberia and gets a stomach ache do you at least suspect a bigger problem? I think, yes. I also think it is irrelevant. </p>

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<p>*This thread is all over the place. Doesn’t appear anything new and on topic is being added.</p>

<p>I was going to close it but let’s see if we can keep it on topic and respectful.*</p>

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<p>Can’t speak for others, but it wasn’t clear to me that you believed that they ever suspected ebola, that of course they would call the CDC when he didn’t get better *because that’s just what people do when they are misdiagnosed *. My bad.</p>

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<p>However, my post did not ever say or even imply that I thought there was anything wrong with calling them, only that it indicated suspicion on their part that he was infected with ebola. Obviously some misunderstandings all the way around.</p>

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<p>Are you talking about Duncan? No, he had a high fever.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/10/ebola-symptoms-dallas-thomas-eric-duncan/17036887/”>http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/10/ebola-symptoms-dallas-thomas-eric-duncan/17036887/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>“Can’t speak for others, but it wasn’t clear to me that you believed that they ever suspected ebola, that of course they would call the CDC when he didn’t get better because that’s just what people do when they are misdiagnosed . My bad.”</p>

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<p>I don’t believe Dallas Ebola guy suspected Ebola because if he believed he was exposed by the pregnant women in Liberia and came here because he thought it would be his only chance of survival - why, when he got sick, wouldn’t he have told the ER he suspected he had Ebola? Isn’t that what he is being accused of - quitting his job to get out of dodge and coming to the US as his only chance of surviving? If that is true he had no reason not to tell the ER right off the bat, no? </p>

<p>I think the half brother suspected Ebola when it was obvious he was getting sicker. </p>

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<p>“When he first showed up at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, the man complained of abdominal pain, dizziness, a headache and decreased urination. He reported severe pain — rating it an eight on a scale of 10. Doctors gave him CT scans to rule out appendicitis, stroke and numerous other serious ailments. Ultimately, he was prescribed antibiotics and told to take Tylenol, then returned to the apartment where he was staying with a Dallas woman and three other people.”</p>

<p>It sounds like the fever spiked while he was at the ER. Also, it does not sound like they just handed him a script and sent him on his way. They just missed the West Africa issue, somehow. Also, buried in the article linked in Post 1128 it says that he told the hospital he had not been in contact with anyone who was sick. So, they asked? Interesting.</p>

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<p>Are they monitoring the staff who took care of him at the Hospital?</p>

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<p>Up-thread someone speculated that the family of the deceased Liberian woman told Duncan the she suffered only from Malaria. Has anyone validated this? If that’s what he was told when he touched her, then it is possible that he genuinely did not know he was infected with Ebola when he departed for the U.S.A.</p>

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<p>But the woman who accompanied him to the first hospital visit may have suspected it. At any rate, she was clear with them about his travel, which should have raised alarms at the hospital regardless of what Duncan knew or didn’t know.</p>

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<p>We will never know for sure what he knew or may have suspected. Anyway, he didn’t mention spending the night driving a dying Malaria patient around, either. And, many reports say they went from hospital to hospital in a cab because the Ebola wards were all full. I agree, either way the hospital messed up this part. The rest of it is just an effort to write or rewrite his life story for some reason.</p>

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<p>I just heard a report that at one point during his first visit to the hospital, his temperature spiked to 103. The person who recorded it put an exclamation point after it.</p>

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<p>For those of you fascinated by the medical stuff the family has released 14-hundred pages to the press. Here’s the preview.</p>

<p><a href=“http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_MEDICAL_RECORDS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-10-12-09-20”>http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_MEDICAL_RECORDS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-10-12-09-20&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>103 is really high for an adult. I don’t get the oversight here.</p>

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<p>Sounds like malpractice to me. That’s not even accurate.</p>

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<p>“I just heard a report that at one point during his first visit to the hospital, his temperature spiked to 103. The person who recorded it put an exclamation point after it.”</p>

<p>I’m not surprised by the exclamation point. That is a pretty high temperature for an adult. I know kid’s temperatures spike pretty high but it’s unusual for such a high temperature in an adult unless there is something pretty serious going on - like pneumonia, for example. </p>

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<p>I have a more basic take on all this. </p>

<p>Issue #1 in any lawsuit will the inconsistency of the CDC instructions and its initial downplaying of the potential problem and its inability to talk straight. The lawyers can argue the details, but the overriding issue is larger. </p>

<p>It is surprising to me how much Monday morning quarterbacking is taking place in that the hospital staff should have known exactly what to do. This is as if the CDC and everyone else supposedly in charge have been clear. </p>

<p>The CDC, in many aspects, has not been clear and to then expect the staff at one hospital to be clear, is a bit over the top in my book. Very few hospitals would have been thinking Ebola given the downplaying even the CDC chief was doing at the time.</p>

<p>Granted now the alert is out at hospitals, but even the CDC is still contradictory, compared to its boss. Until the CDC and government in general gets their story straight, it is fanciful, in my view, to have expected a couple employees at a hospital to be perfectly all over the first case of Ebola in the country. </p>

<p>Here is a case-in-point from just yesterday.</p>

<p>President’s quote from public service announcement to people in Liberia:</p>

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<p>Now, at the EXACT same time, the CDC advice to American travelers to Liberia:</p>

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<p>My point is after two full weeks if the people-in-charge cannot get basic things in sync and agreed to, then why should we expect the very first case to be handled perfectly, especially if the people-in-charge are still making it up as they go. Welcome to your US government at work.</p>

<p>My assessments in such situations are vastly different because I do not expect any of my employees to have a clue, if I do not have a clue. And clearly the leaders here do not have much of a clue based on their messages. </p>

<p>Link: <a href=“http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/obama-you-cant-get-ebola-sitting-next-someone-bus-cdc-avoid-public”>http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/obama-you-cant-get-ebola-sitting-next-someone-bus-cdc-avoid-public&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;