<p>Though no college will rescind an admission because of a low AP score, it may rescind for a fraudulent one. No problem leaving the score blank, but do not put in a fake score. That is a whole other issue.</p>
<p>I never said any school would “rescind an admission.” I said that several schools D1 applied to strongly recommended (and at least one required) the submission of previously earned AP scores, due to the competitive level of applicants. I’ll PM cpt.</p>
<p>You don’t have to send in the official test report until you graduate. There are different schools of thought about whether you should self report bad scores. My inclination is to say that you should report scores for courses that appear on your transcript, but that you are under no ethical or moral obligation to report scores for which you self-studied. I do think colleges are free to assume you got a one if you don’t tell them what you actually got. That said, I don’t think it would hurt you, you could always make a note that you took AP Art because of scheduling conflicts and it sounded interesting, though you have no particular talent for it. In our school, like many others, they won’t let you into AP art without years of prereqs. </p>
<p>Way back when, one of my good friends in high school did AP art with no prior experience in art. She had a great imagination and her themed portfolio was fantastic. They’ve changed the rules a bit since I did AP Art and I have the sense that the grading has gotten more stringent. If you search around a bit on line, some schools post their student’s portfolios along with the scores.</p>
<p>A lot to consider here. The leaving the one score off option sounds good. I personally have no ethical issue with this, since it is the school district and not the CB or the colleges that require taking the test. The personal enjoyment angle is very compelling. D1 took an Art History course from the same instructor. That class had a lot of studio art-type projects, and D1 enjoyed the entire class. </p>
<p>I’m fascinated with the range in level that other posters mention with their own high school’s Studio Art programs. </p>
<p>It is still early days, but I suspect that D1 will be best served by reporting her AP scores. Her school has a few teachers who grade with deflationary glee. </p>
<p>One aspect I was mulling was the AP Scholar awards. These are often only seen following senior year since many students don’t have sufficient AP coursework to qualify. D1 may qualify for “with distinction” by the end of her junior year, in time to include it on her applications. Receiving a 1 on Studio Art would give her a little less wriggle room for that designation. </p>
<p>Of course, maybe I am just overthinking this. I should really just immerse myself in fantasy baseball or March Madness, instead.</p>
<p>The problem, as I see it, isn’t the AP score. Lots of people get poor scores on AP test, and lots of people report them. Doing poorly on an AP exam is no disgrace.</p>
<p>The problem is that studio art is immensely time-consuming, and your daughter is already taking four AP courses, including two that are very time-consuming in themselves – U.S. History and Chemistry.</p>
<p>Another issue is that your daughter does not seem to have a foreign language in her schedule. Students who are at an academic level where taking four or five APs in 11th grade is reasonable often apply to colleges that prefer four years of foreign language. If your daughter has not already completed foreign language through level 4, perhaps she should take the next level of whatever language she has studied instead of taking AP Studio Art.</p>
<p>If your daughter loves ceramics, and your school has a ceramics class, have her take that instead. AP Studio Art is for serious art students. Our school won’t even let you take it without multiple semesters of Honors Art classes beforehand and a teacher rec. </p>
<p>Honestly, your kid already has 7 AP’s. That’s approaching a year’s worth of college credit. She doesn’t need to take AP Art, and it’s time consuming. Find an easier art class if its something she enjoys.</p>
<p>Epiphany, I wasn’t responding to you in post #21, but to the post immediately before me. </p>
<p>To all, I know many, many kids who got low AP scores but still got into top schools. I don’t know if all of them withheld their AP scores, but I do know some of them did, and the counselors at our high school had no problem telling kids not to report low AP test scores. Though you MUST send official transcripts for grades and official test scores for SAT and ACT, I have never seen an application request the official results for AP exams.</p>
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<p>She takes a foreign language through a supplementary program, so it doesn’t show up in her school schedule.</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing up the foreign language issue, SlitheyTove. But it increases my other concern. If your daughter is studying a foreign language in a sufficiently demanding program so that the high school will let her do it as an alternative to their own courses (rather than just, say, going to Saturday Chinese school), then she has another time-consuming commitment in addition to her demanding high school schedule. Adding a demanding studio art course on top of that seems like a lot of work. I like the suggestion that several people made above that she might want to seek out a less demanding non-AP studio art course at her high school to round out her schedule. She could really enjoy such a course without having to put in a lot of outside time or worry about an AP score.</p>
<p>Actually, you can have any individual ap score supressed from your official AP report just by writing to the College Board and requesting this. At least, that is what I was told by the College Board. I was also told to do it by June in order to not have it on the report sent to the matriculating college in late summer.
Note that the suppression doesn’t remove the score from the college board record used for calculating AP Scholar awards, just from the report sent out.</p>
<p>^Is this so that if you didn’t report a score, it won’t show up on the report? Because once you are in like flint at your school, a low AP score won’t matter except that you won’t get any credit for the AP test not passed.</p>
<p>Here is what college board told me about AP scores. Students have the option to supress or cancel an AP score. If it is suppressed it doesn’t go on the record to be sent to a designated school. There is a fee for each supressed score and for each school it goes to. A score can be cancelled at no cost but the AP fee isn’t refundable. If it is cancelled it is like it didn’t happen. If it is cancelled or suppressed prior to June 15 it will not go out on any reports sent out this school year. If it is cancelled after the 15th it will be on the record until next year. If it is cancelled prior to June 15 the score will not count against the student for any AP scholar awards this year, if it is cancelled after June 15 it will not count against the student for AP scholar awards next year but it will count this year. My understanding about colleges and AP scores is that they are self reported until after the student is accepted. You can call collegeboard AP customer service to verify any of this information and to get the specifics of what needs to be in your letter to them. I checked into it because my son is in a school that is for the first time requiring AP testing this year.</p>
<p>Ways to place people’s ages:</p>
<p>1.) The person uses a double space after a period (or other terminal punctuation), and occasionally, a lowercase L for the numeral 1.
Explanation: if you learned to type on a fixed-space device – a typewriter – you were taught to use two spaces after a period. One space after a period is the preferred style for proportional-space font, which is what everyone using a computer for word processing has been using for a couple o’ decades, at least. Many typewriters didn’t have a number 1 key; the lowercase L was used for the numeral 1 instead. People under the age of about 50 would be completely puzzled about the use of L for 1. People my age (over 50 by some) might have used an L for a 1 when young, but might still occasionally revert, by some primal muscle memory, to putting two spaces after a period. People who are over 60, and my exH who is 54, may habitually put two spaces after a period; it’s hard to retrain oneself for some tasks!</p>
<p>2.) The person uses either “in like flint” or “in like Flynn.”
Explanation: The “Flynn” in “in like Flynn” (purportedly) refers to Errol Flynn, a movie actor of a bygone era. “In like flint” was a pun on this and refers to a more recent couple of movies. Older people will say (or type) “in like Flynn,” and if they are women, may sigh in memory of the actor; younger people will say (or type) “in like flint.” Sighing is unlikely.</p>
<p>My observation: ellemenope is younger than I am. :D</p>
<p>(I have no advice to give on SliveyTove’s question; my apologies for the diversion, and I’ll hobble off this thread now back to my rocking chair, shawl, and tea.)</p>
<p>You can suppress the score. But will it show that you took the test and are suppressing the score? I would not bother unless an admissions office calls and asks for the official report. A question to parents of college applicants: Did your students send the official AP reports with their college applications or did they wait until acceptance and only send them to the college they chose? Did anyone get a call from admissions requesting the official AP reports?</p>
<p>1818, we never bothered to suppress or eliminate S’s low score because we never sent out the official report to any colleges during the application process. Only one school got the report and that was during the summer before admissions. The report went to the registrar’s office who made the determination which courses got credit or could count as prereqs for college intro courses.</p>
<p>My understanding from my call to collegeboard was that a suppressed or cancelled score doesn’t appear on the report in anyway. I however would definitely get information directly from collegeboard prior to making a decision. Note that a score is only suppress to the specific schools that are requested and paid for. Cancellation wipes it out altogether. My oldest is a senior an he has not yet sent out any official AP reports.</p>
<p>Thanks much, all this is going to get fed back to D1. She’ll have two open class spots, which may well be filled with Ceramics/studio art…and Auto shop </p>
<p>The double space is still hard-wired into the fingers.</p>
<p>Auto Shop strikes me as a very useful course, and one good thing about HTML/forums such as this is that extra spaces are ignored, so the double-spacing-after-terminal-punctuation (there’s a joke in there somewhere… death by exclamation point or some such) doesn’t show up.</p>
<p>Auto Shop might also encourage D1 to complete driver ed so that she can get her permit so that she could take driver training so she could get her license. At the rate she’s going, she’s going to be fixing cars, but she’ll be unable to take them out for a test drive. </p>
<p>Wait. Why on earth am I complaining about this?</p>
<p>What’s that contest that the tippy-top high school auto shop students do each year, where each team is given a car with an extra bag of parts that need to be screwed back in somewhere and with some unknown number of maladies that need to be fixed?</p>
<p>Owlice - heh heh. There are quite a few other ways to identify “us,” but frankly, I don’t remember what they are. :-)</p>
<p>Oh, and as someone said, the AP Art would be a real time drain. And she’d be in with some really good artists, which could be difficult if she is not one. The portfolio requirements are very specific and so she wouldn’t just be presenting a bunch of art. She’d have to present specific types of art, series, in various categories, etc.</p>