<p>Re: kyledavid80</p>
<p>The fact that many instructors from other great Universities go to Berkeley is correct, but many of them don’t go there because they want to teach. As far as engineering and science instructors, they go there because Berkeley provides the resources and funds needed to do serious research. Many big oil companies like British Petroleum (Bp) have teamed up with Berkeley by providing funds so that Berkeley can work for them. I probably exaggerated a bit when I said students only see the instructors the first and last day, but every Berkeley student I’ve talked to has agreed that instructors are hardly in class. They might show up to class and give a quick bla blab bla and then go do their research. According to the Princeton Review Berkeley rank 18 out of the top 368 schools in the country in “Having the Least Accessible Professors” :-(</p>
<p>You also keep comparing Berkeley with all these great Universities like Yale, Stanford, and MIT. Look, I believe Berkeley is a great school but there is no way I will compare Berkeley with those schools no matter what anybody says. However, I do believe Berkeley and USC can be great stepping stones to grad school at one of these great prestigious universities. </p>
<p>Your right about the average indebtedness between USC and UCB, but what those numbers don’t say is that top USC students qualify for many of the grants USC offers. In contrast, Berkeley is likely to only give you a one time aid package when you’re accepted no matter your performance, which is ok since tuition is reasonable. Even if you do end up paying 10k more, most students can pay that in 3-6 months after graduation. I definitely wouldn’t let that be a factor in my decision in applying to a university (don’t be a tight a…). </p>
<p>I don’t know were you got your acceptance rates but according to Princeton Review 2009
Berkeley’s acceptance:
Total applicants: 43,983
Accepted: 10,271
Students who enrolled: 4,204
This makes a 23.35% acceptance not 21 like you claim. As you can see only 40.9% of students who got accepted to Berkeley actually went there. Not everybody considers Berkeley like you think. Btw, OOS is 10% not 17%.</p>
<p>If all you got is something that happened in the 60’s to say that Berkeley is a better city than L.A. then I’m not going to waste my time arguing with you on that. I can obviously see you don’t get out much. </p>
<p>Stereotyping Asians? Look, I’m just calling it like it is; Berkeley has way too many Asians. Even Asian students will agree that Berkeley needs to do a better job in getting other minorities. Many Asian students are disappointed to find out that everybody there is Asian when they were told all this bull of diversity. </p>
<p>Now let me get this straight, you claim not to be a Berkeley student that goes to this mysterious school that you’re ashamed to name but somehow you know Berkeley inside and out, the students, the Professors…wow. You also claim not to be Asian but somehow you get extremely offensive when people simply say the facts and then you reply by saying is stereotyping. Look Mr. “I have tons of Asian friends” everybody knows that Asians are very shy people, and there is nothing wrong with that. I didn’t mean to touch a nerve when I mention the bowl of rice either, but hey I’m just speaking the truth. Look everybody, at least I don’t buy that bull crap of you having “tons of Asian friends” that are very vocal and outgoing. We all know that most Asians don’t socialize with other groups, that’s on them. It seems like you were bully in grade school by white kids or something because you seem to have something against whites. </p>
<p>And yes, I do believe Berkeley’s diversity will be better of with more out of state students than with a large group of Asian kids from San Francisco. Btw, it wasn’t right when you said that stuff about the orientation with white kids, that’s like me saying Asians will introduce themselves by “Hi, what type of dogs do you eat in your country” when in reality we know that not all Asians eat dog meat. You know that wouldn’t be right.</p>
<p>I hope Berkeley does a better job in years to come by stepping up to what it says. Like I mentioned before there are many other minority students that are being left out of Berkeley: African Americans, Latin/Hispanic, Indian, etc. There also needs to be more OOS and international students as well in order for Berkeley to claim all this bull of diversity. :-)</p>