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<p>What is so difficult to understand? Sure, Berkeley might not be comparable on the undergrad level. But in certain measures, it is. For example, retention rate: all are about 98%. That would make them comparable in that measure. Or faculty. Or graduation rate. And so on–the individual measures are comparable.</p>
<p>For grad school, Berkeley, Stanford, Harvard, and MIT are comparable. Princeton and Yale trail closely behind. Berkeley and Stanford are the real ‘kings’ in graduate education.</p>
<p>For overall school? It’s difficult to say.</p>
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<p>Still you resort to petty tactics…</p>
<p>(FWIW, in my field, the average starting salary from Stanford is $84,000.)</p>
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<p>I’m not saying getting a job is a problem. I’m sure most of the students who graduate from USC get a job quickly. (Though the fact that you try to doubt Stanford in this respect makes me doubt that.) The question is, how much are these students making? When you have to move, find a place to live, perhaps get a car, buy things for your home, pay credit card bills, get groceries, pay for utilities, etc., it ends up being rather difficult paying off a $10,000 debt in “3-6 months.”</p>
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<p>They are. Everyone knows Berkeley is the #1 public…</p>
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<p>What are you talking about? Every university has tons of outreach programs? I don’t think so. Every university has specific scholarships for such students? I don’t think so. Every university has a specific admit weekend for such students? I don’t think so. Not even Stanford has those…</p>
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<p>As soon as you can point out where I made any “racist” remarks toward white people, I might be able to take your claim seriously. (I find it remarkably funny that you say I’m being “racist” towards white people, when I’m white myself…)</p>
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<p>All right, going by the current ethnic categories: white, Hispanic, black, Asian, Native American. That means that a school should be 20% white, 20% Hispanic, 20% black, 20% Asian, and 20% Native American.</p>
<p>Interesting proposal. ;)</p>
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<p>What’s this? Which groups are being left out?</p>
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<p>I’m confused how your vendetta against Berkeley suddenly turned into an inspirational speech on helping the underprivileged…</p>
<p>I also don’t agree that equating ethnic groups with underprivileged ones is as easy as you seem to make it.</p>