<p>For admissions they do care about rigor. For scholarships I have no idea. But even so, there are plenty of 3.95+ kids with 12 APs who will be competing with you for those scholarships.</p>
<p>ripe, you should be asking if you will even get in. you have a decent chance, probably 50%.</p>
<p>Wow @ that profile, thats hardcore!
You think for admissions they would favor a lower weighted GPA (3.7) with ~15 AP classes than a higher GPA with less rigor of study?</p>
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What exactly do you mean by that?</p>
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I just looked at that today. It’s worthless, I could get better financial aid almost anywhere.</p>
<p>I’m OOS and received the Engineering Scholarship of Honor. I found out about it before accepting my admissions offer–I was accepted in mid/late-December and found out about the scholarship towards the end of February (accepted offer in mid-April).</p>
<p>Didn’t have any spectacular extracurriculars (wish I’d done some research or more recognized competitive activities), academic stats were good but as a whole still not top tier (or at least, was waitlisted/rejected by Caltech, deferred/rejected by MIT, and rejected by Stanford), so I was very happy to have gotten it, and it should at least give you one data point. On other note, I also got Purdue’s GPA-based $10k scholarship, but that was the only non-loan award they gave me, whereas Michigan gave me a decent need-based grant that pushed the cost well below that of Purdue and Georgia Tech out-of-state (GT gave me a moderate grant but no merit aid).</p>
<p>SAT (Took once) - 790 (m), 760 (w), 750 (r) - 2300
SAT II - 800 (Math II), 800 (Physics)
GPA 4.0/4.0 (Junior/senior year on a system where A-'s [92.5-94.4] are 3.7’s), 5.2 weighted
AP’s at application time - Bio, Env. Sci., Gov. & Pol., Calc AB, U.S. History, Calc BC, Physics Mech, Physics E&M, English Lang., all 5’s
AP’s in senior schedule - English Lit., Chem, Psych, Latin: Vergil
Rank - Top 5%</p>
<p>Extracurriculars/Awards - Science Olympiad team all 4 years, made it to National tournament all 4 (3 at time of application), Math club president, 3rd place at a math competition at NC State, Quiz Bowl, Key Club, Honor Council, Nat. Honor Society, Varsity Cross Country, Varsity Golf (captain), and a good bit of smaller positions/awards.</p>
<p>Went to a small (~530) public charter school in NC
Gender - Male
Intended major - Aerospace engineering, ever since I knew that’s what it was called.</p>
<p>^those are awesome stats you have. I’m confused why you didnt get into the ‘top tier’ colleges. That said, I think you rightfully earned your scholarship.</p>
<p>ripemango, I guess the only thing I can tell you is that you need to apply to a variety of colleges and see what they give you before expecting anything. When I applied for Purdue, I got a ten grand scholarship + an alumni scholarship + some need based scholarships to cover all but room and board. Of course being from Michigan, it was cheaper to go to UofM regardless. </p>
<p>I’m wondering why you’d think Purdue’s scholarship is ‘worthless’. If you think you can get more somewhere else, go somewhere else but where exactly can you really</p>
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<p>because I’d like to know a school with with Purdue Engineering’s quality that gives out scholarship money more easily.</p>
<p>^ its probably because I don’t know what I’m doing, but when searching through the purdue website I found no half-full tuition scholarship offers - [Purdue</a> University - Merit_Scholarships](<a href=“Learn about Purdue University - Undergraduate Admissions - Purdue University”>Learn about Purdue University - Undergraduate Admissions - Purdue University)
Well actually the largest scholarship you can get (scroll down) is 16,000 which is a lot, but I could probably get comparable FINANCIAL aid, not scholarships, at top schools like Stanford. Not saying I would get in those, but it would be better than the same money at Purdue. But you said you got a combination of awards, so I guess they do combine awards. How much were you offered anyway? So in that case, there’s no harm in applying to see what I can get.</p>
<p>I would suspect that you’ll receive relatively the same amount in financial aid from purdue compared with a school like Stanford, but in purdue, you’ll probably get the scholarship in addition to your finaid.</p>
<p>But anyways, its going to take a while to find my specific scholarship papers [if i have them]. I applied 2008.</p>
<p>Actually I spoke too soon when saying there there probably isn’t a school with Purdue’s merit and scholarship givings. Several Private schools are really generous with their scholarship funding. For instance, Cooper Union is a really selective private university that provides full tuition for all their students. Military service academies like West Point will also give you full tuition (i believe?). These are all pretty difficult to get into but its worth the time to research and apply if interested. Also, if you apply to see the finaid package you get, public schools like UVA and UNC may be cheaper to attend than Purdue.</p>
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I looked at this page, <a href=“https://wiki.engr.illinois.edu/display/ugadvise/Scholarships[/url]”>https://wiki.engr.illinois.edu/display/ugadvise/Scholarships</a>, but as you can see there aren’t any “huge” scholarships offered, besides maybe the $10,000 one. There’s nothing even close to half tuition there. Am I missing something?</p>
<p>I’m speaking from anecdote here, but I know two people that applied to Illinois. Both got a $12k per year engineering scholarship and a $2k honors scholarship. Also, one got a $10k per year scholarship, which when added together with the others cut down the costs to the same as instate Michigan. For reference, neither of these kids got ANY money from Michigan.</p>
<p>And I think you need to get some perspective. $10000 per year is huge. Most people are gonna get nowhere near that amount in merit scholarships. I know plenty of people, including myself, that would do anything for a scholarship that big.</p>
<p>10,000 is huge, if it can be combined with financial aid. But since I would qualify for aid, 10k in merit that reduces the financial aid package would be worthless.</p>
<p>If your income is $120-$130k per year, you likely won’t get much (if any) aid from Michigan.</p>
<p>Reading his posts, I think he’s very confused. ripemango I think you think you’re poorer than you actually are. $120K for a family is middle class. I’m middle class. Most of my friends are middle class. Middle class does not get significant non-loan financial aid. I think you want some magical deal where you get a big merit based award and then the school pays for another large chunk out of financial aid. I’m just saying don’t expect much or you’ll be dissapointed.</p>
<p>YUP im confused as hell.</p>
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Yeah, pretty much. I want at least half of the cost covered.</p>
<p>120K is like 90th percentile for household incomes. that’s upper middle class…</p>
<p>Yeah I know, but in the world of Ivy League caliber financial aid, 120k can get very decent “aid”.</p>
<p>Good luck getting anything from Michigan. I was offered 12k from Illinois, but nothing from Michigan. A lot of it boils down to your need and ACT scores.</p>
<p>What are the stats of people who get these scholarships? Does anybody know?</p>