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<p>Even the politically untouchable automatically increasing spending categories like Medicare and Social Security?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t defund UW just because of one anonymous poster on the Internet who claims to be a graduate. </p>
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<p>Ucb, this needn’t turn into a political debate.</p>
<p>It pretty much already has been a political debate for a while, right (advocacy of government funding or defunding universities, government budgets in general)?</p>
<p>Wisconsin, like many states is well down the road on defunding the UW System which was cut by $250 Million this budget. Same in Washington and California and North Carolina and Texas and so on. The problem is the cuts are always straight accross the board instead of closing or downsizing one marginal campus. And there are some good candidates.Weakening all to keep the marginal alive is bad policy. </p>
<p>Krugman, really–no thanks</p>
<p>I don’t know anything specifically about EIU, so I won’t comment specifically about it’s situation. However, I do feel that there is a place for non flagship state colleges. I don’t believe that going away to school is something that should be viewed as a natural rite of passage but as the luxury it is. For those who commute to college, which is the vast majority of our college students, it is necessary to have schools within a reasonable distance for them to get their degrees at a reasonable cost. I feel that in this country we have done a good job in having a community type college for the first two years of college work within a reasonable commuting distance for most of us, but not necessarily for the last 4 years. A lot of these non flagships are spending money in building up non commuting resources and I feel the states should instececile rey lives a pampered lifead, have more of such universities as commuter schools.</p>
<p>How effective do you think they should be at a minimum? Graduate 30%? 10%
How much should they spend per actual graduate compared to other schools or is the sky the limit? Should job preparation and placement be considered and included in the college info packet?</p>
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<p>At the very minimum, universities should make career surveys (broken down at least by major) of their graduates available. Many do not. Wisconsin appears to have it only for engineering majors ( <a href=“Engineering Career Services – College of Engineering – UW–Madison”>https://ecs.engr.wisc.edu/public/student/offers.php</a> ).</p>
<p>More useful would be something like what UC Berkeley ( <a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Major.stm</a> ) and Cal Poly SLO ( [Graduate</a> Status Report 08-09 - Career Services - Cal Poly](<a href=“http://www.careerservices.calpoly.edu/students/career_planning/gsr.htm]Graduate”>http://www.careerservices.calpoly.edu/students/career_planning/gsr.htm) ) show.</p>
<p>While few would suggest choosing a school and major solely on the basis of job and career prospects, being as fully informed as possible about job and career prospects when choosing a school and major can only help. Even if one chooses a path with poor job and career prospects, it is better to know beforehand than to be surprised at graduation (knowing beforehand means being able to know that one has to be more aggressive in minimizing debt and applying to internships and jobs, for example).</p>
<p>“How effective do you think they should be at a minimum? Graduate 30%?”</p>
<p>Do you really have no understanding of the budget of the average family sending their kid to a directional state u, where finances may force a kid to drop out?</p>
<p>Boy, has this thread morphed. Need to remember life is about a lot more than money/economics. There are so many intangibles that make up a life and make any college worthwhile to a person. Never forget the bottom line is quality of life, not the material cost/benefit analysis.</p>
<p>Psychology actually does bring in a fair share of grant money (the professor I worked with/for in undergrad was completely grant funded). Also, I think some posters are really unaware of how time-consuming research and writing articles really is.</p>
<p>I do think, however, that some states have too many branch or directional campuses to spread funding over and that these funds could probably be better concentrated between, say, 7 or so state schools (maybe more for larger states, fewer for smaller states) rather than having a large number of “leftover” state schools that few actually graduate from. Heck, even divert some of the money to (more?) community colleges so that they can better serve the students who may be starting off on shaky ground for whatever reason. A lot of branch or directional state schools are great in theory (expanding access to higher education), but in practice, they can end up being very limited (offering only a handful of courses and majors) or “drop out” or transfer factories. I’ve known some people who have gotten wonderful educations at non-flagship state universities, but I think things do get spread too thin and that having 7 or so state u’s would still provide for a good number of options while concentrating funds.</p>
<p>Life without money sucks. If you don’t think so just try it. Talk to any of the happy unemployed people in the US today if you can find one. They will think you are nuts.
Also this a major policy question in a time of probably permanently shrinking public resources as we Boomers suck up all the public money.</p>
<p>Wisconsin has it for engineering and business in super detail. </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/common/yir/YIR_09_10_Web.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/common/yir/YIR_09_10_Web.pdf</a></p>
<p>Every college has its own full-time placement center and may have reports for students in the system.</p>
<p>The Life Sciences College does publish an annual report that is posted online. Right now they are looking to track down more gaduating students to complete the report.</p>
<p>Some departments like Econ and Chemistry have their own placement office with some info.</p>
<p>[Department</a> of Economics | University of Wisconsin - Madison](<a href=“http://www.econ.wisc.edu/ecdo/job_int.html]Department”>http://www.econ.wisc.edu/ecdo/job_int.html)</p>
<p>Barrons, it’s hard to take you seriously when most of your posts are trying to convince us all that UW is the bomb. Ok, we get it. You loved UW. Enough already.</p>
The university is still standing, but budget cuts due to low enrollment are still causing the institution problems.
http://www.wandtv.com/story/29567808/eiu-budget-cuts-force-furloughs-for-222-employees.
I will also add that it’s sobering to see how people on CC look at TTT’s. Thank you for the warm words.
Sincerely,
An EIU alumnus
Please use old threads for reference only and open new threads if you wish to discuss the topic.
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