@turtle17 , HS averages really don’t matter to UMich because it is pulling from a very small subset of students. It’s the population of those students that matter. Based on the last year when all Michigan HS students took the ACT (they use the SAT now), only about 1% of them received the current Michigan admission average score of 33 or above. Now it about 4% who meet or exceed 33, but those are self-selected students (about 25% in number). It’s only the size of the that upper tail group that matters.