ESA animal mauls another passenger on airline flight

Oh wow. What an effort! I hope the wild parents accepted the new pups as their own.

http://www.miamiherald.com/latest-news/article211958589.html

Okay, my first reaction to this story was “Awww, this is adorable and wasn’t it nice how everyone pitched in to help”. But, cynic that I am, I saw that Service Dog vest on the father of the pups and it looks suspiciously like the kind you get online. These people have two labs that are obviously not guide dogs, and what are the odds that both family members have a real physical problem that requires that each of them have a trained service dog? Slim and none, I’d say. My guess is that these folks just wanted to bring their labs with them to Philly for free so they got 'em vests. I also think it’s pretty careless that they didn’t know the mama was so close to giving birth. Thank goodness the poor dog didn’t go into labor on the plane where there was no room to lie down and spread out. Just one more reason why these so-called service animals shouldn’t be flying.

Someone commented on the article saying that true service dogs are spayed/neutered. Don’t know if that’s actually the case, but I was thinking that it probably was.

A fertile dog just can’t be trusted to ignore those hormones as would be required to do the job.

The abuse on this whole thing is rampant and has gotten out of control. I hope that people will soon be required to provide proof of certification.

When I googled the question of spaying/neutering rules for service dogs I came across an entry by a disability rights advocate on the Easterseals blog in response to proposed legislation in Illinois to tighten up on service dog regulations. The blogger, who teaches at the U. of Illinois, titled her entry, “Stricter Rule for Service Dogs Goes Against the ADA”, and claimed that

Really, a person with a serious medical issue who doesn’t visit the doctor?!

Considering the cost to properly train a service animal this seems like a silly argument to me. The vest could be delivered with the dog.

  1. dog alerts to an oncoming seizure, 2. dog stays with the owner to protect her during a seizure, 3. dog helps owner to become reoriented after a seizure. It’s really not that complicated. Besides, doesn’t the 3 tasks rule already apply to service dogs?

I understand that people with disabilities don’t want to highlight their medical issues, and I think it’s reasonable that they not be required to disclose the nature of their qualifying condition, but when they claim that there should be few or no regulations surrounding service dogs they lay themselves open to the kind of abuse of the system we often hear about, such as people thinking that they can pet a legitimate service dog because someone with a fake vest has allowed them to do it, or thinking a real service dog is a fake because they’ve seen too many ESA’s and fake service dogs behaving badly in public.

I just flew on UAL. While checking in at Premier line, was surrounded by dogs and their owners! Over at and around the gates were more animals, including a huge cat which barely fit in its nylon bag and looked quite heavy. It’s starting to feel like you are flying in a pet shop these days.

Many of us have varying degrees of allergies to animals—it’s really challenging these days.

I don’t think United has started allowing animals in the cargo holds yet (mid June?), so the only way they can travel is in the cabin.

Yes, I believe that huge cat was in the cabin, just barely squeezing into space under seat of owner for nearly 5 hour flight to HNL after waiting hours at gate. Poor kitty!

I just can’t believe that there are all that many people relocating overseas who can’t wait a week to do so. If not there’s no real need to fly an animal. What’s wrong with using a pet sitter when you have to be away? It’s not like these animals really love the stress of airline travel.

Welcome to the world of the un- or under-insured. One visits the doctor as little as possible, just keeps taking the meds. When I was in that position I just took myself off a couple of meds when a renewal would require a doctor’s visit. Not something like a seizure disorder, but now I would go to the doctor to at least consult.

The person might have to pay extra for a visit solely to get a certificate, if such a visit were required. Maybe it depends how the regulations are written; for example, if the person gets a blanket certificate/letter when they get the (genuine) service animal that is good for ever, vs the person having to get a new one for each flight or per year.

Good job, JetBlue!

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/jetblue-joins-other-airlines-in-restricting-support-animals/

"JetBlue announced Tuesday that starting July 1 it will require those customers to submit forms from a veterinarian vouching for the animal’s fitness and vaccinations.

Customers will have to tell JetBlue 48 hours in advance if they will be traveling with a support animal. And they must accept liability if the animal hurts someone or damages property."

They can tell the passengers all they want that they will have to accept responsibility but if an animal attacks you best believe the victims will go after the deep pockets, the Airlines.

Of course, but the shallow pockets can be shaken out, too.

It can give passengers pause if they have to sign that THEY will reimburse for any harm caused by their animal. I believe that’s one of the reasons for such policies.

I think the owners should have to pay any damages, but agree than until other passengers are given an option of flying with or without other peoples pets, the airlines will still find themselves drawn into any lawsuits.

Bottom line. Animals don’t get to share cabin space.

Let’s not forget that the airlines are required by federal law to accommodate ESAs.

Here’s the US federal law about animals on planes.

https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/service-animals-including-emotional-support-animals

I’m just really angry that so many people have games the system and now make it hard for people who really have disabilities.

@partyof5 I think most people posting here agree.