Everything you wanted to know or should know about accounting

<p>Firefighter22, you should consider applying to Baruch.
It should be within your time range since NYC is close to NJ</p>

<p>Big 4 recruits here often</p>

<p>Thanks, StrictlySB! I’ve looked into it as well as a family friend mentioned it, and it does its like a 30 minute commute by train.</p>

<p>Hi, I am new here and I have a question. I am still a High School Student but I am interested in majoring in Accounting by planning on going to a community college for 2 years and then transferring to a 4 year. The 4 year that I am thinking of going into is California Baptist University however what I am worried about is if I’ll be able to get a good job afterwords. Do the B4 recruit in these medium private universities like CBU? I don’t know if I’ll be able to make it to USC or some school out of state that gets recruiters. Also, is there a salary difference between going to a B4 or beginning work at a regional firm after college? What is the main reason why people even go to the B4? Just for the resume? Long hard overtime hours for a notice on your resume? I still have a lot of time ahead of myself but I want to make sure I have a path for my future and I really don’t want to screw up. These boards have really helped though.</p>

<p>ValleyAccountant is right, taxguy is wrong.</p>

<p>AACSB accounting does not matter one bit for grad school as long as the business school as a whole is AACSB.</p>

<p>I’m sure this has been asked numerous times, so I apologize, but what are the keys to getting noticed and hired by one of the Big 4? Obviously they need to actually recruit at your institution, I know. But after that… GPA? ECs? What do they weight the most in their evaluations?</p>

<p>It is an overpriced small school with no more prestige or recruiting than a Cal State University. That being said SDSU and Cal Poly have much better recruiting for finance and accounting than CBU and cost less than 1/4th of the price. If you are gonna go to a private college for accounting in socal I would recommend University of San Diego or University of Southern California. That being said SDSU kids tend to get the same jobs as the latter institutions I mentioned. Additional student loan debt would not be work a private college. I went to a garbage 4th tier college and now I am a senior tax associate at a national firm. I previously worked for a regional.</p>

<p>There are a number of reasons people choose a national firm over a regional. National firms have national recognition, increased specialization, international opportunities, and exposure to larger companies. If you work for KPMG you can go anywhere and employers will recognize the quality of your employment. Compensation at a regional vs a national doesn’t vary that much until you make partner. Now if we are talking tiny dinky local firms then compensation may be much lower at all levels. Compensation varies more by location than by firm. National firm partners tend to make much more than regional in my experience. They also work much longer hours and have more liability especially if they are dealing with publicly held companies.</p>

<p>acaden notes,"ValleyAccountant is right, taxguy is wrong.</p>

<p>AACSB accounting does not matter one bit for grad school as long as the business school as a whole is AACSB."</p>

<p>Response: My post about AACSB only related to the business school and NOT to the accounting program. Graduate programs will accept kids from AACSB programs even if the accounting isn’t AACSB accredited, as of now! I don’t know what changes in the future will occur though.</p>

<p>Is it possible to break into trading/consulting/private equity with a major in accounting, minor in math?</p>

<p>I’d like to be a forensic accountant or work for the IRS or FBI. I’m majoring in accounting, but I’m indecisive about my minor. I’m between criminal justice and spanish. which would you recommend as my minor?</p>

<p>whichever leads to a higher GPA. Minors are meaningless.</p>

<p>ValleyAccountant,</p>

<p>Is it absolutely necessary for me not to attend California Baptist? I know its small and expensive but I can’t see myself going to SDSU because of it being a huge party school with not the brightest students around. USC is far too expensive and I can’t think of any other school in CA with a good accounting program. Would I not be able to find a decent job if I major in Accounting at CBU? Are there any other good accounting schools besides Cal Poly, SDSU and USC?</p>

<p>Question for all:</p>

<p>I am be graduating shy of 150 for California’s new January 1, 2014 15 requirement. 24 units of Accounting, 24 Business, an additional 20 Accounting Study, and 10 Ethics. Here is a link for full details. [California</a> Educational Requirements for CPA Licensure Beginning January 1, 2014 | Roger CPA Review](<a href=“CPA Review: CPA Exam Prep Online 2023 | UWorld Roger”>CPA Review: CPA Exam Prep Online 2023 | UWorld Roger)</p>

<p>My question is this. I will be returing to a junior college to grab the extra units i’ll need. I have each of the 4 categories already done with the exception of the 10 Ethics units ( I am 3 units shy here). I was hoping to enroll at a JC that I have never attended and take an elementary accounting class for easy units (of which there is no equivalent currently on my transcript), apply these 3 units to my 24 Accounting units so that I can move 3 of those units to the ethics section ( Fraud Examination). Would the CPA board disqualify this new class because it is a beginning class dated after my degree or would they not care and accept it?</p>

<p>Thank you for your time.</p>

<p>Raxxar,</p>

<p>The UCs and Santa Clara come into the top of my mind when it comes to recruiters recruiting from there. Heck, even UCR has direct recruiting from KPMG and EY as well as some of the mid-tier firms, with recruiters from Deloitte also coming by frequently to their accounting club meetings. </p>

<p>Direct recruitment on campus undoubtedly helps but if companies don’t recruit straight from your school, you could easily go to one of those Alpha events to network, or even crash a USC Meet the Firms to network. From what I’ve heard, professionals definitely take note when people from schools they don’t recruit at take the initiative to get over to a school like USC’s Meet the Firms. It shows that the candidate really wants the job. </p>

<p>It’s not the school you go to that matters the most. It’s on you finding networking opportunities; ultimately, that’s what matters the most.</p>

<p>SDSU kids are smarter than Cal Baptist kids. Their Accounting program at SDSU is way better than Cal Baptist and far more firms recruit there. Cal Baptist is in the inland empire and that place is a dumphole with only 1 national firm out there. SDSU has one of the best big 4 alumni networks in the country. What is wrong with a bit of partying? Accountants party quite a bit in case you didn’t know LOL. The whole pointdexter stereotype is BS. Those who do best in public accounting don’t just have technical skills but social skills. You want to be the kind of person who a client can go drink beers with. </p>

<p>Do what you want but Cal Baptist is no different than a low ranking cal state like san bernardino. This goes for accounting. Go look at big 4 sites and see where they recruit. Cal Baptist is small and not highly regarded in accounting. For the money you will shell out for that silly little christian school you could get a MST from SDSU or Poly. </p>

<p>I really don’t get your issue with the partying. It shouldn’t bother you what other people do.</p>

<p>Jdenly you are fool for asking licensing requirements on this forum. Go talk to the CA board of Accountancy.</p>

<p>Cal Baptist is near the end of my list of good accounting schools in california. I would list it along side CSU Bakersfield and underneath Fresno State. Here is my list of good accounting schools in CA in order of school excellence and on campus recruiting. It is a rough list but should help you out. </p>

<ol>
<li>USC – hands down the best</li>
<li>Cal Poly SLO-Santa Clara-University of San Diego, UCLA, UCSB etc</li>
<li>SDSU – This program is 5x the size of other programs so they have tons of on campus recruiting. Their Beta Alpha Psi Chapter are snobbish and talented and they dominate most things.<br></li>
<li>Fresno State-CSULA-GGU-CSU Northridge-SFSU-UCR-SAC STATE</li>
<li>CSUSM-CSUSTAN-CSUB-CSUSB etc and a handful of other low tier CSU’s and dinky private colleges like Cal Baptist. These type of schools may not have all the big 4 recruiting there. </li>
</ol>

<p>I am sure I missed something. That being said I went to a school in the 5 category and I work for a national firm.</p>

<p>^ you missed CSU Fullerton/SJSU, I would put the two in the middle of 3 and 4</p>

<p>Also FYI the person always matters more than the school. A top level CSU bakersfield student with a good personality,demonstrated leadership skills, and a high GPA can still beat out a USC kid even if the USC kid has better grades. I know a few foreign students that still don’t have jobs 2 or 3 years out. If you look at other CPA forums you will hear some stories like this. They are very nice people their english is just very poor and they are antisocial. A few of them graduated from a school in the category one and 2. They don’t have jobs because although they have top grades and 700+ gmat scores, 90’s on their CPA exams, and masters degrees they bomb every interview. They are awkward, boring, overly nervous and just plain weird. It is kind of sad. One of them is a good friend of mine and I have tried to help her. I wouldn’t ever want her to meet with anyone affiliated with a client but if we could lock her in a room and hide her away from important people she might irritate with her antisocial personality she could probably get a ton of work done. </p>

<p>I also know an idiot that got hired by a large local firm and makes good money. He graduated from a junk school. He has a 2.2 gpa and it took him 8 years to get a bachelors degree. Luckily he has many friends so he ended up with a high paying internship throughout college and a good job at graduation. I would never trust him with a clients tax return but he could do well in a night out on the town with a VIP.</p>

<p>I think I made my point with my lovely quickly and poorly written post. </p>

<p>High school popularity contests don’t end after high school they continue into the workplace. People hire people they want to work with.</p>

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I don’t know how you can talk about ranking accounting programs in CA and not mention CSU Fullerton – one of like 2-3 schools in the state who actually have an AACSB to their accounting program. Not sure about the other CSUs, but SJSU is within stone’s throw of offices/buildings of all the Big 4 and they recruit heavily there, along with tons of tech firms (probably looking for the engineering guys, but it gives the opportunity to network) and some government agencies (both a federal and state building are located almost right across the street from campus).</p>

<p>EDIT: Not that the AACSB for the accounting matters, but just sayin’, when there’s only a couple out of the near hundreds in the state with it . . .</p>

<p>Thanks for the information valleyaccountant but I also have a few questions. The cal baptist websites states that everyone who graduated with an accounting degree got themselves a decent job. What is do bad about it? The reason i dont want to go to SDSU is because I feel like there are too many slackers there and too much partying. Socializing isn’t a problem for me and trust me I have plenty of friends; that really is my last priority. I am really just worried because the program is much better at San Diego then cal baptist and I want to be sure I can find a job.</p>