Evolution?

<p>“P.S. You forgot to enlighten us as to where the dinosaurs fit into the bible and your creationist theory. Or is that just more evidence that will just be casually ignored?”</p>

<p>Have you ever read the Old Testament? How would you classify Leviathan or Behemoth, taking into account all of their attributes in the different verses? The word “dinosaur” did not even come into use until the 19th century. The Bible referred to animals that fit the description of dinosaurs thousands of years before “scientists” dioscovered their existence. This seems to be counter to your “argument” that the Bible stays static while science pulls away from the Bible toward truth. In this case, the Bible had it right, and it took “science” thousands of years to catch up.</p>

<p>I’ve never understood why this seems to matter so much to people. I, personally, have no trouble reconciling evolution with fairly evangelical, even fundamentalist Christian beliefs. To me, the only thing at stake in the argument is how specifically literally one should take certain passages in the Old Testament. I mean, let’s imagine that you are a young-Earth creationist who believes that “days” means 24-hour current days, and that the description and order of creation is intended to be taken totally literally. If God appeared to you and told you, no, evolution is real and the Genesis description is a figurative and poetic statement showing that God is ultimately responsible for creation, what other part of your beliefs would that threaten? None, as far as I’m concerned.</p>

<p>true, Curm, but we clearly see early man co-existing with dinosaurs in the Book of Barney Rubble. I don’t need to remind you that Fred routinely slides down the neck of a Brontosaurus when the whistle blows at day’s end,… don’t argue scripture with me, laddie!</p>

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<p>“In his own image”–sounds like if I were to see God tomorrow, he’d have a form that I would recognize as human.</p>

<p>but I seem to remember the Flinstones co-existing with the Jetsons in the same time period. :confused:</p>

<p>I am not a Christian, but I don’t see a dichotomy in believing in a literal Bible (as long as you don’t insist on 7 days- being 7 24 hr ones) and understanding the theory of evolution as being the explanation that seems to explain organisms the best.</p>

<p>With physicists also in the mix, it is certainly possible that in 50 years we will have a totally different explanation, but this one has held up for a while now, and new information seems to back it up.
[Lizards</a> Undergo Rapid Evolution After Introduction To A New Home](<a href=“http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080417112433.htm]Lizards”>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080417112433.htm)</p>

<p>I’m somewhat mystified about the evolution/creationist dichotomy. In my mind, even if you believe that some greater power created animals and put them on earth, does that negate the possibility that those animals evolved over time in response to their environment?</p>

<p>I recently visited the Galapagos and I suggest that anyone who does not believe in the evolutionary process, go there and look around. The evolutionary process practically hits you over the head!!!</p>

<p>well, EK, When Lord Bertrand Russell wrote “Why I am not a Flintstone” he allowed for the simultaneity of cartoon universes. Really, when you think of it, tv shows are all playing on different channels at once. Your limited perspective, i.e. what you are currently ‘watching’, accounts for the sense of being restricted to one temporal station, whereas the jetsons are the flintstones are the honeymooners are the simpsons all spread out across many dimensions while partaking of the same essence.</p>

<p>as ezra pound says ‘all history is contemporaneous in the mind’ -then he choked on a matzoh ball.</p>

<p>musicamusica, I’d say they were effective, but then I might be forced to reveal a guilty pleasure that actually isn’t really mine!</p>

<p>As I think this topic has already been done to death :wink: …[the</a> answer to the gas crunch?](<a href=“http://www.lemaymuseum.org/vehicles.php?vid=1901]the”>http://www.lemaymuseum.org/vehicles.php?vid=1901)</p>

<p>Owlice…PLEASE read your Genesis! “And God made the two great lights to rule the day: the lesser light to rule the night:he made the stars also.” No where in the bible are football players or ice skaters refered to as “stars”.
Which brings to mind another debate—the greater light to rule the day–possibly Oprah? We could argue the finer points of stardom ad infinitum.</p>

<p>But surely, Jason Taylor is end product of millenia of evolution–a gorgeous physical specimen of a man who can dance to boot. But can he clean…?</p>

<p>I think it has to be Oprah; who else is there?!</p>

<p>ellemenope, what about cooking? Can we add that?</p>

<p>Without evolution, we’d all be pond scum.</p>

<p>Definitely–forgot about the cooking! And how about taking care of the kids? Can he evolve to be like the daddy seahorse–</p>

<p>“In the wild, the biggest Father’s Day presents should probably go the seahorse, one of the only male animals known to get pregnant and give birth.”</p>

<p>Then women would evolve into beings that would sit on couches in the Woman Cave.</p>

<p>DMD77—you havent met my brother in law.
(while she straightens her tie and does her best Rodney Dangerfield impersonation)</p>

<p>To ro, el, owl, musica and the whole gang. Your asides have made my morning of nausea bearable. Thanks. I appreciate the laughter. ;)</p>

<p>Curm–did I miss the CC thread concerning the causes of your nausea?</p>

<p>Well Curm your Book of Barney crack made me do a coffee spit take onto my computer screen.</p>

<p>:: hands curmudgeon warm gingerale ::</p>

<p>Dang. I guess I should have put that in a cup first…</p>