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<p>You think that’s tough. Try a full fast for couple of days.</p>
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<p>I just call it a remarkable exercise in self-control.</p>
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<p>I did. When I was anorexic. Your defense of disordered eating is truly scary, and it sounds exactly like what I’ve seen written by 15-year-old girls on “pro-ana” web sites. I did not think I would hear such things from any parent here. At least the anorexic teenage girls are self-aware enough to know they’re doing somethig unacceptable.</p>
<p>Don’t worry; I don’t do it on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Well, that’s good. You would die much sooner than normal if this was your regular diet.</p>
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<p>Maybe, maybe not.</p>
<p>I’m a scientist and I like to experiment.</p>
<p>A think a scientist would understand the strain you’re putting your organs under.</p>
<p>Since you’re not intellectually lazy, maybe you can show us some experts supporting a starvation diet.</p>
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<p>I avoid making claims that I can’t support. That doesn’t necessarily mean that I agree or disagree with them.</p>
<p>I didn’t mean to suggest I could not support my points, what I meant to say I see no reason to, there is no one here who agrees with you, and frankly, I’ve seen you say other scary things here about your fitness efforts.</p>
<p>“I didn’t mean to suggest I could not support my points, what I meant to say I see
no reason to, there is no one here who agrees with you, and frankly, I’ve seen you
say other scary things here about your fitness efforts.”</p>
<p>An argumentum ad populum (Latin: “appeal to the people”), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges, “If many believe so, it is so.”</p>
<p>This type of argument is known by several names,[1] including appeal to the masses, appeal to belief, appeal to the majority, appeal to the people, argument by consensus, authority of the many, and bandwagon fallacy, and in Latin by the names argumentum ad populum (“appeal to the people”), argumentum ad numerum (“appeal to the number”), and consensus gentium (“agreement of the clans”). It is also the basis of a number of social phenomena, including communal reinforcement and the bandwagon effect, the spreading of various religious and anti-religious beliefs, and of the Chinese proverb “three men make a tiger”.</p>
<p>Well, that’s a thread-killer if I ever saw one.</p>
<p>I think there are some bigger issues going on here than we can solve- even on CC! :)</p>
<p>Hmmm, I think I’ll have an egg mcmuffin and settle in the couch to watch some soaps today!</p>
<p>^not very exciting entertainment list. Well, have the best you can, I quess. My swimming at 6am outside with other crazies was terrific, nobody can make me feel unhappy today. And ton of chocolate for breakfast enhanced it even further. Now I can handle grandkids after work, I left them at camp after my swim. Looking forward to watch them flipping of diving boards.</p>
<p>MOWC - it was my “bigger” issue that I was hoping to get solved! ;)</p>
<p>If a person is healthy and lucky, there doesn’t seem to be any harm in extreme dieting. If taken too long or if unlucky, that’s different. </p>
<p>Real life example: I know some body builders - not my thing, btw. To build mass, you need to ingest a lot and I mean a lot because you are working hard and the belief, correct or not, is that you take in extra calories, blast your muscles and make more muscle. You end up bigger and fatter. So you starve yourself while continuing to work hard. You lose the fat quickly & get cut - meaning defined musculature. You compete and then relax.</p>
<p>If you’re unlucky the strain will toss a clot and you’ll die but that can happen anyway. People can survive a long, long time on very little. The key is liquid, because your brain and other systems will shut down without new liquid. If you take multi-vitamins and calcium, you’ll be fine for a good long time. </p>
<p>A famous faster is Dick Gregory - who is now 77 or so. He would regularly fast for weeks, but always ingesting juice and necessary nutrients. (Not strictly a fast as in Ramadan or Yom Kippur, but not much eating.)</p>
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<p>Maybe if you want to look like Arnold did. But the truth is for a typical person doing strength training who wants to look ripped, they recommend about 4 oz. of protein, a portion the size of a deck of playing cards, right after the workout. That will maximize the muscle building.</p>
<p>Now runners, swimmers and those doing intense cardio need lots of calories. I understand Michael Phelps consumes more than 8000 calories each day.</p>
<p>I find that sticking to a portion of meat or chicken the size of a deck of playing cards significantly keeps the calorie count down. Meat has some major calories, so eating what is truly “one serving” is important.</p>
<p>It’s also economical.</p>
<p>I do know, that a pint of blackberries, a handful of wild plums, 3 shiro (extra plums), couple of Parson prunes, and couple of figs, will cause immediate weight loss. Its tough to be a scavenger of fruits while biking and own a defunct orchard.</p>
<p>I forgot, a couple of sweet crab apples.</p>
<p>One of my running friends is training for the Leadville 100 miler and orders this breakfast at Le Peep called The Eighteen Wheeler. It must be about 3000 calories. You can do that after a 30 mile training run!</p>