Extraordinary students not aspiring for top schools?

[Vyse]

<p>nspeds: Your sophistry and hair splitting are incredible. Again:</p>

<p>Main Entry: 1ad ho·mi·nem
Pronunciation: (')ad-'hä-m&-"nem, -n&m
Function: adjective
Etymology: New Latin, literally, to the person
1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent’s character rather than by an answer to the contentions made </p>

<p><a href=“http://m-w.com/dictionary/ad%20hominem[/url]”>http://m-w.com/dictionary/ad%20hominem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Is that too factual for you? Did you take Stephen Colbert literally and decide that facts from books have no “soul”?</p>

[Vyse]

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Just to update everyone in this thread

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<p>LMAO! If an attetion whoring, “look at me, this is why Im winning!” post isnt de facto proof that your contention was indefensible all along, then I don’t know what is.</p>

[katho11]

<p>Your argument doesn’t have the black and white answer you’re looking for. Check your list again. Does any school have a higher number of admitted students than of their own students? </p>

<p>That’s true of pretty much every school regardless of rank.</p>

[nspeds]

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Yet you have never told us WHAT it is other than prestige that creates such a large chasm between the ivies and everyone else.

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<p>I never claimed that there is a “large chasm.”</p>

<p>There are many other reasons to choose an Ivy, but I am far too lazy to enumerate them here.</p>

<p>Let me clear up several things for you:

1. Not all elite private school students are “art history majors” or “liberal arts majors.”
2. Some elite private schools have superior business schools. MIT, Georgetown, UPenn, and Dartmouth come to mind.
3. Coming from an elite private school does provide you with options that you would otherwise not have had if he came from a regular school.</p>

<p>All of these represent good reasons, in themselves, for choosing an elite private school. There is no denying them.</p>

[Vyse]

<p>1.) I never said they were
2.) Those are almost all graduate programs.
3.) And I never disagreed with you there. You said Ivies had advantages <em>other</em> than prestige. Proving that Ivies are more prestigious doesn’t proving that Ivies are automatically better than other schools in <em>other</em> respects</p>

[nspeds]

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Did you take Stephen Colbert literally and decide that facts from books have no “soul”?

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<p>Huh? This is not a substantive argument, vyse. Keep learning you’ll get there.</p>

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LMAO! If an attetion whoring, “look at me, this is why Im winning!” post isnt de facto proof that your contention was indefensible all along, then I don’t know what is.

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<p>Your intellectual inferiority is clear: I never said I was “winning.” I said that there is a certain burden of proof that must be met of Vyse’s arguments are to work. IF (that is a material conditional right there) he cannot meet it, then I win the argument.</p>

<p>Poor, poor, katho. So dumb.</p>

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Does any school have a higher number of admitted students than of their own students?

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<p>Yes. Yale Law School takes more from Harvard than from Yale. Heck, UT law school ( a top law school) takes more from HArvard than from UT.</p>

[nspeds]

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1.) I never said they were

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<p>Sorry, your snide remarks on page 1 indicate otherwise.</p>

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Proving that Ivies are more prestigious doesn’t proving that Ivies are automatically better than other schools in <em>other</em> respects

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<p>I wasn’t attempting to prove the claim that there are other reasons to attend an Ivy League school. I thought the other reasons were pretty obvious, and that a post indicating the obviousness of that would reveal the stupidity of your remark. I guess you are too stupid.</p>

[Vyse]

<p>Nspeds, the irony here is incredible. Your reading comprehension is wholly inadequate. First you thought I went to the University of Florida, now you think Katho levied then insult about attention whoring. And all the while you talk about how superior your comprehension skills are. Reading is FUNdamental bro.</p>

<p>Thanks for the laughs, I’m going to bed.</p>

[katho11]

<p>Oh yes, I’n extremely dumb. That’s why I’m actually getting paid to go to college. Haha, I sure tricked them.</p>

[katho11]

<p>And maybe you should have read my last sentence…</p>

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That’s true of pretty much every school regardless of rank.

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<p>Which leaves room for exceptions since I haven’t memorized the number of students admitted into programs I have no interest in.</p>

[nspeds]

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Your reading comprehension is wholly inadequate.

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<p>Wow… I really wonder then… how I scored an 800 on the verbal section of the SAT. Incredible. What did I do? Guess? Geez, you got me there.</p>

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First you thought I went to the University of Florida

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<p>Shall I go through all the statements you attributed to me in this thread, statements I never made?

That’s why I’m actually getting paid to go to college. Haha, I sure tricked them.

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<p>Once again, Katho, this is not a legitimate response to my argument.</p>

<p>Here: Give a claim, some evidence to support that claim, and a conclusion. Voila! You can do it!</p>

<p>Now say: I can read. Here is why xxxxxxx. Conclusion: I’m not dumb.</p>

<p>Try it out. Sarcastic and insulting remarks don’t count as argument. I hope you understand that.</p>

[Vyse]

<p>Sorry, your anecdotal list of accomplishments doesnt erase the fact that you’ve demonstrated a clear propensity for improper reading.</p>

[katho11]

<p>You said that I’m dumb. My argument was that if I were so dumb, I wouldn’t have my scholarship.</p>

<p>How is that different from saying what I scored on a standardized test?</p>

[nspeds]

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Katho: I’ve gone a whole thread listening to a longhorn without being tempted to say “12-7”. It looks like our mutual distatste for unsubstantiated arrogance has overriden our schools’ rivalry

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<p>Vyse likes to use unsupported claims when they help him make snide remarks. Here is one claim he ised without my having substantied it. (I know you love to have it both ways.)</p>

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regional chauvinisms manage to make your points seem even weaker.

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<p>I never demonstrated any regional preference. There are elite private schools all over the country.</p>

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Need some reassurance that spending 30k a year for a liberal arts major was the right move?

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<p>You don’t even know what I major in.</p>

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all the while asserting that you’re better than everyone because of the name of your school.

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<p>I never made this claim.</p>

<p>Geez, someone’s reading comprehension skills are suspect. And they aren’t mine!!!</p>

[nspeds]

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I wouldn’t have my scholarship.

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<p>Huh? Scholarships don’t make you smart. That’s pretty pathetic that you’ve been grounding your intelligence on a scholarship. Hahaha.</p>

[nspeds]

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Sorry, your anecdotal list of accomplishments doesnt erase the fact that you’ve demonstrated a clear propensity for improper reading.

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<p>I only listed one accomplishment.</p>

<p>Who’s claiming who can’t read, again? I’m sorry, I must’ve forgotten. Oh yes, it is you who confused my statement of getting a perfect verbal score for a “list of accomplishments.”</p>

[katho11]

<p>So you don’t think that you’ve said things in this thread that would lead others to think that you’re a pretentious jerk?</p>

<p>You’ve dripped with arrogance since your first post, buddy.</p>

[nspeds]

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So you don’t think that you’ve said things in this thread that would lead others to think that you’re a pretentious jerk?</p>

<p>You’ve dripped with arrogance since your first post, buddy.

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<p>Arrogance, according to the Oxford American Dictionary, is “having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one’s own importance or abilities.”</p>

<p>I neither think I am important nor that I possess superior abilities. Yes, my responses may seem arrogant, but they can have other justifications/sources. Of course, you are going to latch on to the source that promotes you the most, and me the least. That source would be “arrogance.”</p>

<p>My thinking you are an idiot does not constitute arrogance, especially when it is grounded on solid reasoning.</p>

<p>My thinking elite private schools are superior to regular schools is also not indicative of arrogance. I don’t see why it is. Because I attend one? That hardly seems fair. So any person who attends an elite private school cannot argue that elite private schools are superior? That’s pretty sad.</p>

[katho11]

<p>Merit based scholarships such as the one I got do happen to show some level of intelligence. Unless, of course, you think that scoring in the 99th percentile and having a 4.0 unweighted high school GPA means nothing.</p>

[nspeds]

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Merit based scholarships such as the one I got do happen to show some level of intelligence. Unless, of course, you think that scoring in the 99th percentile and having a 4.0 unweighted high school GPA means nothing.

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<p>There ya go! She’s growing up!.</p>

<p>Great job, katho. I am now having more confidence in your being able to post a proper argument. Now just work toward putting it all in one post. Almost there! Baby steps, baby steps!</p>