<p>“what about the backfiring effects of AA? it does affect non-URMs, isn’t that basing decisions on race, separating by race?”</p>
<p>-you said what about the backfiring effects, then didn’t give any effects. And you said it affects non-URMs, then also didn’t state how in anyway. With regards to the fact that college is NOT a meritocracy both those statements are false. And no they are not separating by race in holistic admissions in that everything is viewed in context and their are not separate processes for different races.</p>
<p>the separating by race was part of my second part, the definition of segregation.</p>
<p>as for no evidence for the negative realitites of AA, where in the world have YOU been for the past 10 pages? This whole discussion started with the posts of extremely (academically) qualified and well rounded non-URMs that were rejected from SCEA. I assumed you would have read these posts before ranting about who college is not a meritocracy.</p>
<p>As for this little statement, my argument is that college SHOULD be a meritocracy, in my opinion. Is it so wrong for me to share my opinion when you blare yours in others’ faces. regardless of your fleeting lecture here, i still believe that AA affects non-URMs in a negative way. If you want evidence, look up some of the rejected threads or the posts from the SCEA thread.</p>
<p>“I’m like bob9975 because I believe that AA is wrong. But i’m not racist, elitist, sexist, or homophobic. How did you jump from AA to homophobia in the first place? Yes, SOME URMs have to deal with serious disadvantages, and these circumstances should be taken into consideration. As for racism, there will always be bigots out there, how does that qualify anyone for admission over someone who is fortunate not to have been in that situation? If it is so important to an applicant, it should be talked about in the essay, and the application should never ask for race.”</p>
<p>how did that make any sense. “um, yes some people are at a disadvantage, and some people are racist, and some people are poor, but why should the lucky people be punished for their luck???” </p>
<p>This was my response to lmpw’s post, not yours. Read his/hers</p>
<p>"Nobody is being punished. College isn’t, and shouldn’t be, a meritocracy. Admissions isn’t another competition, get over it. "</p>
<p>out of curiosity, are you a URM? I do think that at some point, before this madness of college admissions began, college was a meritocracy of sorts. If it was all just a gamble, how would these schools have produced the engineers, doctors, lawyers, and politicians that they have. IF it was all just a gamble, then every school would be the same. </p>
<p>And if you say its not a gamble, then if its not a gamble and its not a meritocracy, what is it?</p>