FAQ for USC Financial Aid

<p>Alamemom,</p>

<p>You’ve been a great resource on the boards. But I feel as if you took my words out of context and certainly I’ve been appreciative of your willingness to “tell the truth” about the realities of financial aid. And certainly I wasn’t citing “broad generalizations” but real live flesh and blood cases.</p>

<p>First - I didn’t say (and don’t think) there is anything “wrong” about the process. My comment was a cautionary tale that the COA calculator - even when using the specific fields from the CSS doesn’t necessarily reflect the actual package a student will receive. Parents going into the next round of fall applications should recognize that and take it into stride. Even plan for it so April numbers aren’t jolting.</p>

<p>Also, I’ve noticed the distress friends of my child are going through (and students on this board as well) when they realize the final number is often as high as $40-50K after Stafford loans. Just as some who posted they got Presidential scholarships, for instance, come to realize that it may replace, not supplement university grants. So helping parents to brace for anything in the range of zero - $60K is advisable. Certainly that is what I did - stated that although we don’t have a high asset base but assumed our financial aid and scholarships would be zero. Therefore anything greater than “zero” would be considered a “gift.” and welcome news.</p>

<p>On the other hand, it isn’t fair to suggest that other parents who were blindsided may have had “significant” assets. At least one school I talked with pointed to the elimination of employee “retirement” contributions as a way to pay for our children’s college. Home equity might be tapped (if the house is not under water) but with more stringent loan rules, many families are shut out of that process as well. That may, in fact, be part of the case for the families I cited. Or it may simply be that a $40,000 loan nets out to about $300 a month if you take it to the full term available and the school saw the figure as manageable. Again, despite the online COA, we adjusted our expectations when the final numbers came back higher and concluded we’d have to take out loans. For other parents, it may be a devastating game changer.</p>

<p>Still, I don’t retract my statement. We’re talking about kids and dreams. Several students on this thread are mourning the loss of a dream because of the high costs to be borne over four years. Either they can’t afford it - or parents are declining to subsidize it. Posting that a school was “generous” and leaving a family with little EFC is fair game, but as it was limited to that single sentence with no context felt a bit off “key.” Certainly that’s some of the offline chatter, according to my D on the FB page where after some students are announcing they can’t enroll while others comment on it by rejoicing that they got a full ride due to low assets and income.</p>

<p>I do know several families who are getting full rides at colleges. I rejoice right there with them. But context and a little Trojan empathy goes a long way when a kid just posted that his/her parents said “no.” </p>

<p>USC is a fabulous university - just an expensive one. If people start the USC process knowing that, it makes the journey a little bit smoother, I think. It did for us.</p>

<p>We’re happy with our outcome, but I can understand how this is not the case for someone else and I’m mourning along with them.</p>

<p>As I said, your complaints and debates about financial aid will receive a wider audience if you start a thread about that topic rather than using the thread I started three years ago and have maintained since then to air your grievances. Everyone is free to post on any thread on college confidential, so I am counting on your common courtesy to help me keep this thread in a useful question and answer format.</p>

<p>Posters come here to ask questions about financial aid. I make great efforts to answers those questions in a timely manner to assist posters who may be under time constraints and feeling very stressed. As the two of you have chosen to continue to hold your discussion/debate/complaints on the FAQ for Financial Aid Thread which trigger notifications to me, I have gone ahead and blocked your screen names to make it easier for me to locate and respond to actual questions on the FAQ for financial aid thread and address those questions for potential and current USC students as needed. </p>

<p>I wish the best of luck to you and your students.</p>

<p>Thank you aflame mom. I have read your advice along the way.
The initial reason I posted was to let others know that some updates had gone out.
We are a middle class family and went through verification, provided tax returns and a parent income and expense for 2012and 2013. We also I include notes and extra information for clarification. This option of providing extra information is available to all.
The package my daughter received was consistent within $ 5000 of what Pepperdine offered. It included student loans. The component remaining for Parent plus was manageable.</p>

<p>I don’t understand why gratitude and appreciation is mocked. On this board for a number of schools, I have seen students and sadly parents berate universities that did not accept them and criticize them to often.</p>

<p>Aide is relative and of the schools my daughter applied to the family component after federal student loans ($5500) has varied by about $12,000. The decision has not been made but USC is high in the mix. This mix included state schools and private. </p>

<p>We had realistic expectations based on other offers from other schools. Scholarship components might be better at other schools where my D was admitted to honors programs. We don’t live in Alabama so my daughter did not get grant aid at UA although she got merit. That served as a benchmark for comparison.
I apologize for hurt feelings as that was not my intent but popping the balloons of others is not kind either.
Just as not every student gets admitted and not every exceptional student gets invited to be a Mork, Presidential or Trustee scholar, not every student gets a preconceived financial package.
It is important for people to know that it is possible but be prepared that it may not happen. Prepare for the downside as the upside takes care of itself. To those of you who did not get your dream, you have my empathy, but request that you not bash USC. Take the high road. We will continue to be grateful and wish others well.</p>

<p>My apologies for typing errors as I was unable to edit within the time constraints.</p>

<p>@Momof2017</p>

<p>I apologize for my reaction. It never occurred to me that your reference to generous was in reaction to the posts complaining about FA and negative comments about USC. We were “prepared” to be hit with a large bill but it is now so clear how many families were not. You are right - any aid is generous when compared to students who are posting that they received nothing at all. Kudos to you and your child for having perspective.</p>

<p>Is it better to choose cal grant a or cal grant b for Usc?
Will Usc cover the missing 9,000 for freshman year like the UC’s do?</p>

<p>In general, it is better to take Cal Grant B at USC, because the Cal Grant B funds are guven directly to the student for expenses such as books. Yes, USC will meet your USC-determined need and will not leave a Cal-Grant-A sized gap in your package, but as always I caution that USC will use the CSS/Profile to calculate your need and you may be expected to contribute more than your FAFSA EFC.</p>

<p>A note: If USC recommends that you take the Cal Grant A, follow their advice. They will do the figuring to see which is most beneficial to the student and make a recommendation.
Good luck!</p>

<p>Thank you so much!
You are a wealth of info!
And I can ask by calling the fin aid office right?</p>

<p>You are welcome! Yes, you can call - </p>

<p>Phone
(213) 740-4444, 9 a.m. – 5 p.m. PST (M-F</p>

<p>or email here: [USC</a> Financial Aid - Contact Us](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/contact/contactus.html]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/contact/contactus.html)</p>

<p>So I submitted information for an outside scholarship, and they ended up taking it away from my university grant instead of my stafford loans. Is it possible to ask them to give back the grant they orginally gave me, and take away from my loans instead? Or is that a ridiculous request?</p>

<p>No, it is not a ridiculous request - it is a sensible request. Do write up a request asking that your outside scholarship be applied to work/study or Federal loans instead of your grant - the worst they can do is say no. In general that is how scholarships are applied (see link below), but in some cases they have already made an overaward and will reduce the grant first. It will not hurt to ask. </p>

<p>I suggest a brief letter and a tone such as, “Thank you for the information about my financial aid. I was hoping that my outside scholarship would be applied to my loan rather than reducing my grant. Is there any way my case can be reconsidered?”</p>

<p>Another way to approach the issue is to ask for a cost of attendance increase for a one-time purchase of a computer for school use. In some cases this restores your original package and then leaves a “gap” for the computer use which can be filled by the outside scholarship. </p>

<p>Even if it doesn’t work, the worst they can do is say, “No,” and you will be no worse off than if you didn’t ask.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>

[USC</a> Financial Aid - Grants & Scholarships - Undergraduate - Outside USC Scholarships](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/grants_scholarships/undergraduates/outsideusc.html]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/fa/grants_scholarships/undergraduates/outsideusc.html)</p>

<p>My award still hasn’t come in yet, even though i submitted all of the required documents by the February deadline or whatever it was. It took them almost two months to process my non custodial parent waiver form and thus the application has only been in review for the past couple of weeks. last week they asked for more documents concerning medical expenses, i submitted it, and again last night i get a message asking for more information. At this rate i will not get an award letter by the may 1st enrollment deadline. I have been accepted to five other schools, and one of them gave out a very generous aid package. I really want to go to usc, what are my options at this point?</p>

<p>I would suggest submitting a request in writing (an email will work) to your admissions officer asking for an extension of your USC commitment deadline until your USC financial aid package is received. If in your financial aid correspondence you have the name a financial aid officer, reference their name in your request and cc the email to that person. USC grants those requests, but be SURE you get it in writing and note the name of the person granting the extension.</p>

<p>You can attempt to make the same request to the school you would attend if USC’s package is not sufficient, but other schools vary in their willingness to do so (the UCs will generally not grant an extension while you wait for USC, for example).</p>

<p>Make those requests THIS Monday so that you obtain your responses in advance of May 1st. If May 1st arrives and you still do not have your USC package (though I predict you will) and you were not granted an extension from your 2nd choice, then you must - MUST - make a deposit by May 1st to a school you KNOW you can afford. Do not leave yourself without options - even though the deposit may be lost if you later choose USC, consider it an insurance policy to keep you from being without a college this fall. </p>

<p>Good luck, and be sure to update me when your package is presented so I can provide current, useful information to future applicants!</p>

<p>This morning, DS got an email from Finaid saying his award was updated. We hoped that as the SIR date drew closer, he might be one of the lucky ones that saw some additional award like others have mentioned in the past so he went to look right away and there was nothing different. There was no change or update so the email was odd. Has anyone received a real change to their award yet? Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>Those notifications always drove me nuts! They never say what change has been made, so there was always a little piece of me that worried we would look at it and find they had changed it to ZERO! (That never was the case, so do not fret college confidential-ites!)</p>

<p>You can call on Monday to ask what the change was - once we had something like a $12 change to the cost of attendance, once it was an administrative change that did not even show up on the award page, once it was an extra $2,500/year replacing work/study :slight_smile: . Go through line-by-line, because sometimes the dollar amount does not change by an item does - like in the previous poster’s case, an outside scholarship might have replaced a bit of the grant (and then appeal to get the grant restored as in the above case, of course :wink: ).</p>

<p>Yes, I have seen other posts about changes this week, and I would not be surprised if they continue through the first few days of next week.</p>

<p>Keep us updated!</p>

<p>Thanks alamemom, I really don’t see any change at all so maybe it was just one of those administrative changes. It would have to be a good chunk of $change$ to add USC back into the mix. S still hasn’t made a decision but USC IS more than the others so we’ve sadly crossed it off the list. We were both so excited to see the email, but S is so undecided, I guess it’s best to not have one more choice. I have hated to let it go though as we all loved the school so it was just wishful thinking, I guess.</p>

<p>I sent in my financial aid appeal a few days ago. (Late, I know.) Do you have any idea when they’re gonna receive the documents and process it? I remember it said on the uploading form that it would take two to three days for them to get the appeal but it still hasn’t shown up in the received documents library yet. My parents and I would be paying full sticker price if I were to go, so any amount of grants would be extremely helpful. I’m just really nervous.</p>

<p>10 char…</p>

<p>Question about Financial Aid:
Wondering after student put in commit deposit, is there a confirmation for the financial aid? Or just wait for the official billing statement’s arrival?</p>

<p>bleachedsnow, I don’t really know the timetable for financial aid appeals. The top priority right now for the financial aid office is getting all of the initial packages presented, so they will get all of those done first.</p>

<p>helloworld, no, there isn’t a separate financial aid confirmation when you commit. I am not sure I understand your question, but I think you are asking about the overall billing process.</p>

<p>The first thing(s) that will show up on your billing statement will be summer orientation, if you sign up for it. After you register for classes at orientation, charges will begin to appear on your statement and they will continue to be added as August approaches. Financial aid begins to be applied in August, with Federal loans and grant appearing last - they generally are not credited until within 10 days of the first day of classes due to federal regulations. </p>

<p>The student/family portion is due generally about 2 days before classes start. If a student/family cannot pay it all at once and needs to divide it into payments, be sure to arrange that well before the due date.</p>

<p>If that is not what you are asking, let me know and I will give it another try :)</p>