Fashion question about rich people

Why? Some brands represent extraordinary craftsmanship going back generations. You might not care about such things, but why write off people who do as automatically pretentious?

Have you ever gone to the textile or fashion exhibitions at the Met or at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London? Or at any other number of museums throughout the country or world? Or to any decorative art exhibition? There can be extraordinary beauty in useful or decorative goods. Why write off people who appreciate that beauty as pretentious? You don’t have to buy it to appreciate it.

I don’t write-off people who appreciate that beauty as I am one of them. I do get annoyed when people discuss brands of their clothing in an effort to impress.

Maybe. But do you suppose he knows where the tailor’s shop is?

Hunt, is that one of those trick questions, like who is buried in Grant’s tomb?

Of course Prince Charles knows where the tailor’s shop is. It’s where it’s been for the last three hundred years.

Some years back, my British distant-cousin-who-comes-from-family-money (my grandmother and hers were sisters but my grandmother was disowned because she married a Scotsman) and I were walking down Jermyn Street in London on our way to lunch. My cousin looked in a store window and said “that’s where my father’s feet are.” Of course I asked for clarification; it developed that her father had his feet molded there and then just called for new shoes to be made from the molds when he needed them. Indeed, the store had beautiful handmade shoes in the window. And a sign “purveyors to the Royal Family since forever.” (Approximately.)

Enjoying this thread. I had to laugh in recognition about what we female attorneys wore to work when we first started out. I am pretty sure I spent a lot more on my clothes, per piece then (the man suits, etc.), than I do now.Those silk blouses didn’t hold up for very long.

My D, who is 22, loves LP. She checks their website often for sales. She would comment if someone else was wearing LP because she loves LP.

As for purses, I’ve taught my D’s to buy real vs fake if they want them, but we’ve had good times shopping at places like Century 21 and TJ Maxx for deals on real ones. (I’m talking about prices in the 3 figures reduced down to 2. None of us have bought 4 figures, much less 5.)

What I meant is: do you think Prince Charles goes to the tailor’s shop for a fitting? I suspect he does not.

I would guess that the tailor goes to PC.

On second thought, perhaps he does go to the shop. That might be his way of mingling with the common folk.

Good visuals.
Good for the tailor’s business.
Get a bit of fresh air.
Hmm…maybe he does actually go to the shop.

I wonder if he has an Amazon account.

The answer to your question is it depends on the person. If we are talking the well off, above upper middle income (let’s say for arguments sake, household income is in the upper 6 figures and beyond). I am not rich, merely upper middle income, and I don’t exactly shop in designer boutiques, nor does my wife, but I also can appreciate well made clothing that yes, is expensive. There are some high end labels that are made to impress with their name, but they are made in the same sweatshops using the same material as expensive brands, there are those where the quality of the material and craftsmanship make them stand out. If someone is wearing a good looking outfit, will ask them about it, compliment it, and maybe ask about it, but it is because it stood out.

And I agree with what someone else said, the kind of posturing the original poster is talking about tends to be among what they used to call the Nouveu Riche and the like (think the Housewives of Beverly Hills or worse, NJ), where they are very conscious of things like what handbag someone has or what dress they are wearing or what car they are driving, not because they necessarily know good fashion or quality or appreciate it, but because they know the cost and judge things based on that. The whole “Darling, is that Prada” kind of thing is common with people like that (and you don’t have to be rich to be like that, plenty of people in the middle or upper middle income see something someone has, and instead of saying “wow, that’s nice” say “How much did that cost?” kind of thing. My son went to a private school that had a lot of families that would be perfectly at home on the real housewives of NJ, lot of them were second marriage trophy wives of guys who were corporate executives, corporate lawyers, etc, and the families had that kind of attitude, judged people by what car they drove "Oh, you drive a C class Mercedes? How gauche…needless to say our slightly battered minivan didn’t even register). There were people there who were old money, the kind of thing like they were patrons of the local big steeplechase even, and while they wore really nice clothing and drove expensive cars, I didn’t get that sense out of them (then again, when the husbands and wives opened their mouths, you heard the tones of private schools and such, many of the other type I am talking about talked like the women on “Real Wives of NJ” or Jersey Shore).

My mom once said something about those kind of attitudes, about label consciousness and such, and she said she thought that attitude was expressed by people who weren’t born into wealth, and grew up assuming that is how rich people acted (like the gray poupon commercials:). You run into that in car collecting circles, there are people who are all caught up in the price of a car, and many of those who are are the ‘nouveau riche’ types, whereas the guys from well off backgrounds tend to be very unassuming about their collections and love nothing more then to talk about the cars they have, about the attributes of the car, the unique features, they tend to love the car because they love the car, not because it has a 6 digit or 7 digit price tag.

Just a note about fraud a bags (and all). The problem is that you and the place that sold it to you are stealing…from the designers and their companies. I am not sugar coating anything…where was this fake assembled? Under what conditions? how much are these workers being paid? How was the skins harvested?

I have read several threads here about blood diamonds. The outcry was palatable…So…now think again.

If I can’t afford an original I don’t purchase it. I purchase vintage jewelry so blood diamonds aren’t a question there.

Oh, Hunt, I literally thought you were making a joke.

Q: Where is Prince Charles’ Savile Row tailor’s shop located?

A: On Savile Row.

Thought that your suggestion that HRH might not know that was a sly reference to the royal IQ.

The oldest money, 3rd gen Harvard guy I dated way back when wore worn loafers and mended sweaters. He looked a mess compared to us middle class kids with everything brand new. He’d talk about how his grandmother would barely turn on the heat in her big Boston house. I’m forever stuck with that image as old money.

I would have no way of knowing, of course, but I would imagine that the tailor comes to the prince. Mingling with the common folk is all well and good, but not when it comes to exposing the royal bits.

Off-topic at this point, but the V & A is one of my favorite museums. I could look at costume exhibits all day.

on second thought, sometimes I do look at costume exhibits all day :slight_smile:

We men tend not to expose our bits, even when working with tailors. Hope that helps.

I’m tacky new money - lol My nana came over from the old country on a boat - and it wasn’t the mayflower. I grew up dreaming of being able to buy “mall” clothes one day. Daffy Dan’s was my childhood clothing store where we sorted through bins of holy clothes to find something that fit. And I don’t mean religious.

I have many friends who also own businesses and honestly any talk about clothes is usually about who found a good deal lately. I’m sitting here in chico’s capri’s and a j jill top from last year. Since I work out of my house a lot I schlump around in soma pajamas and a bathrobe I bought on vacation years ago. I think many business owners lived through our own version of the depression starting out. I know hard times with the business impacted us in a profound way.

My daughter went to a summer camp that I thought was just a summer camp. It ended up being a who’s who of the washington elite children. She made friends with people who just live in a different stratosphere than us. Drivers, nannies, body guards, the whole nine yards. Generations of successful people. We’ll just say, I know they notice my chico’s capris, that I drive myself around and my “people” are just my family. Some have been nice, some standoffish, and not many I’d really say were truly down to earth.

Bevhills, to solve one of those problems, people could just not buy bags made of “skin.” It is possible. I don’t own anything with leather, fur, etc and do just fine :slight_smile:

Absolutely there are major designers who don’t use animal products in their lines…Stella McCartney is vegan, Louis Vuitton uses (use to use) a plasticly purse, as does Prada. It is NOT merely the way it was executed, (bad pun) but the design. And that is theft.