“They never self match.”
A CC profundity.
Listed on the 2015 men’s rowing team: https://calbears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=2759
At 125 pounds, presumably a coxwain (which the above article mentions him doing in high school). The team is composed of >= 180 pounds men or <= 130 pounds people (both men and women, presumably coxwains): https://calbears.com/roster.aspx?roster=113&path=mcrew
This is the parent who wanted her son to take the test at home - literally at home because he had tonsillitis. She (the parent) is going to proctor him. What teen would not know that taking the ACT at home with your mom proctoring isn’t the norm?
So copies of the actual test are mailed to this parent before the test. And she didn’t copy them and share with anyone else who might be taking the test that weekend?
I’m still processing that someone would pay $200k for Chapman.
Not surprised about Chap-man. Some people pay 200k for their kid to spend for an afternoon walk down the aisle of a “chap-el”
Post edit: Ya know, taking my own advice and moving on. 
I did not know that women can be a coxwain on the men’s team.
Observer:
“But you seem to believe that putting the recruit applications of donors who give $2 million to the athletic department into a separate pile from the recruit applications of all the other students is fine as long as the recruit applications of donors who give $2 million who get admitted are still somewhat talented in the sport. Even if they aren’t nearly as talented or their academic records nearly as strong as half the aspiring recruits whose application goes in the non-$2 million donor pile and get turned down.”
I still have not broached whether or not they are placed in a separate pile and what I may/might think of this. I am saying the number of these kids is small (.008, in total, including some other factors) at this school I know so well. I have also said the truly qualified others are not shunted aside for these few mega donor kids. Not sure if you are confusing some posters. Or trying to draw out some response I can’t fathom.
And remember, it’s not all about stats. And not that many families donate millions. The stance you take is very assumptions oriented.
Canuckguy, who is “Anonymous Former Admissions Counselor,” what “small, private northeastern liberal arts school. It was a good school — not the best or most competitive, but a very respectable institution?” Note he says it’s “needs sensitive.” And why do you find his opinion piece so authoritative about the elite colleges?
Or Rachel Toor, whose 3 year stint at Duke was over even before Hernandez left Dart, 15 years ago? (An ice age ago, in admissions policy/practice.) Lol.
Now, put this in your pipe: I have no idea if this is accurate but read (was it in Slate?) that 86% of the athletic recruit applicants to Harvard got admitted. Doesn’t that stun?
And I have long held this bookmarked. If some would just explore what the colleges do say and show, rather than bloggy writers or authors out to make a buck, you’d be a giant step ahead of yourselves.
Read it, just what the dean does say.
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1632160-christoph-guttentags-letter-demystifying-admission-process-at-duke.html
[CC leads to the second page. Take yourself to the first page, where the letter is.]
NCAA refers to US Rowing for rules. The rules at http://www.usrowing.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Rules_Of_Rowing_2019_FINAL_v21.pdf have 4-105(b) which says “A male Coxswain may compete in Events for women, and a female Coxswain may compete in Events for men.”
Note that 4-105.1 specifies a minimum weight of 120 pounds for coxwains in men’s events and 110 pounds for coxwains in women’s events. So it is not a surprise that coxwains weigh around that much or just above.
Please tell me if I am right about this. In any given year there are very, very few kids who are the children of multi-million dollar donors. Maybe 2 or 3 (just a guess). Those three kids are not taking the spot of anyone else the school would have taken, because admissions is not that rigid. They can simply accept two or three extra kids that year. No one is shunted aside.
I will also say this. I believe that most people with the capacity to give multiple millions to a college are neither cruel nor idiots. They don’t want their unqualified children to flounder at their alma-maters when they could go elsewhere. My daughters are legacy’s at two very sought after schools. They didn’t apply to either because they would not have fit there. Being an alum, I knew that full well. If I had multiple millions to donate to guarantee them entrance, I would not have done it. I don’t have that kind of money to donate. But I do make small donations to the school my daughter is attending now (in addition to tuition) because I am grateful for the wonderful experience she is having. I have nothing to gain by doing this. If I had more, I’d give more.
Upthread, there were references to articles indicating that around 5% of students at some Ivy League schools had development connection. However, if that is true, it is unlikely that more than a few are related to the really huge donors, with more of them being related to “smaller” (but still large in comparison to what most here may be able to donate, or what the cheaters paid for Singer cheating services) donors who may have gotten lesser bumps more similar to that from legacy preference.
@jym626 it was linked to previously (I think… I’ve read it before, and i’m sure it was from a link here), but you’re forgiven for having missed one of nearly 3000 posts.
@gallentjill My guess is also 2-3. So many mega donors give when they’re older, the wealth accumulated, their own kids established, and the need to distribute their wealth in other ways is important to them. (A number of mega donors are also childless or, eg, late-age widows. Ime.)
Of course, you get some who have that level of wealth younger, maybe their kids are in their teens. But people seem to think there’s a perfect convergence. One day, you give big bucks and the next thing you know, an auto admit. Not.
Now, if the topic pendulums back to athletes, those families’ donations would still need to flow through the Development teams. And follow legal practice. (In our case, monitored ultimately by the state’s Attorney General.) The scam apparently involves many “donations” to individuals or the “foundation” Singer set up. Not the standard practice.
But people get wind of one Kushner and assume it’s widespread. Their fears are fanned by various articles about how the wealthy do this or that to isolate their privileges. And the argument runs 197 pages, much of it circling back to the same assumptions.
The Yale coach that took money also had his own players writing papers for his graduate degree. lol.
And took 1.2 million paid in installment plan by relatives of the student. Nice of Singer and the coach to offer that to the family, and for them to come together for a cause.
There are “devolpment related” applicants with connections to much earlier “mega gifts” that still count.
They (school) are hoping for another bite at the apple or grandad paid for the library or endowed a full chair.
This plus nearer gifts or planned gifts or hoped for gifts can also be in that category. It’s the development group to decide. And unlike the coaches. These officers can’t have too many bad seasons and keep their jobs.
Also if we think it is easy to look up sports recruits, it’s a million times easier to look up these families.
@lookingforward So, in other words, there is no need to shunt kids aside who otherwise would be accepted. The number of admissions offers is not that rigid. These very few kids are in addition to the others who would be accepted. In a year with no major development cases, they don’t necessarily accept 2 more “regular” kids.
GJ, right. The colleges know how many they can admit and what percentage will likely enroll, to end with the right number for the class, to fill the seats and beds available. There will be a small number who excite everyone who reviews. Really tremendous kids who give you faith. Much smaller than the target number of admits. The others admitted will be strong, in all the ways that matter to the college.
Cannot find a US News 2019 Overall National Ranking on Chapman (ranked #5 “Regional Universities West”).
However they are in the Top 100 US News ranking (#85 Nationally) under Best Graduate Business Schools.
University of San Diego is also Top 100 Overall 2019 US News ranked (#85)…very respectable.
Of course both are PRIVATE and very expensive. Small student populations of about 6 thousand at each campus with small class sizes, more personal touch, and much more wealth compared to the PUBLIC University of California System.
The rules in PA and IL are up those residents to change, if they so desire. (Sorry, but not empathetic in such situations since the locals choose not to.) At least Rutgers offers merit aid.
full disclosure: I used to live in IL, and had plenty of friends whose kids attended UIUC, but yes, it wasn’t cheap.
Chapman overall wouldn’t have a strong appeal but they do have a strong film department. Not sure if the kid in question was a film major.