I searched Wellesley. Couldn’t get into the archives far enough back. But here’s some food for thought for everyone.
In 1996. Not yesterday but not pre internet lol. They had 3600 applications for 1460 acceptances. 41% percent admissions rate.
In 1970 in the Hilary era it appears much higher based on similar schools at the time like Harvard. But more interesting was it was 3400 per year. And 500 out of the 2000 or so undergrads were from Mass and NY.
Fascinating data and how much things have changed.
And how current perception of schools for parents and grandparents were forged in a completely different era of statistical realities.
Not sure if this story has been shared here yet, but I find much mentioned to be true about not just the clear recent arrests and college admission scandals, but what I am seeing for my kid and his peers the last few years of college acceptances to more sought-after colleges. What’s your hook? Can you pay full tuition? When maybe the first questions should be “academic merit”, followed by “Is this kid (not their parent’s pocketbook, home address, education level, or appearance) a good fit to their proposed major and our community”? Many of us have been reading a story of a great kid @HKimPOSSIBLE, that has been denied left and right even with rising above really trying circumstances, excelling at school, even publishing in some medical study/ paper. Maybe the real crime here with college admissions is the veil around holistic admissions. If holistic admissions were held to a higher and more transparent standard, it would be harder for people to cheat the system. To find the story that just came out please Google “college simplified education DOT com College Acceptance Rates Are Not the Same For All Students 2019”.
Several of the schools have already announced new policies on athletic recruits. Stanford is setting up a review board in the athletic department. USC will definitely have more reviews. Many announced that they reviewed all the athletic admits for this coming year and could/would rescind any student they felt had a problem.
I think schools are much more concerned about the test cheating than that a softball player can’t hit the ball. Schools are more concerned that a bribe was paid to a coach than whether the coach got the best second baseman out there.
@brainstormcouture I hear you. But think about the realities of it all. If Harvard posted exactly what it wanted they would get 50,000 applications that would speak to exactly the same “sauce” you describe. It would spawn a new industry of counselors to shape your application perfectly to this recipe. And then people would cry foul. And the campus would all of sudden perhaps be more tilted than ever.
They have a basic profile but they want room to freelance. To to take chances. To offer opportunity.
Everyone knowing the exact formula would then make it even more test oriented. And the we would cry foul. Poor schools and low ses have proven disadvantages in this area.
Then it should be purely gpa. Ah, but some schools inflate more than others. Foul I say.
Interviews should count more. Ok if you’re a great speaker and good looking that will be a big advantage. Say goodbye to the shy kid. Oh and then we have the great interviewer bribery scandal of 2032. Etc.
It’s not perfect. It’s not meant to be. It can’t be. It’s run by human beings.
So I think it’s best if they look at gpa. Then test scores. Then the person as whole. Read some things about them. See what others have to say. Let them talk with alumni on an informal basis. Add in some kids for special talents or treasure they can add to the school over time. Make it a fun place to be as well with some fun activities and sports. Make a spot or two available for someone from places and ethnic backgrounds that seem to get passed by generation after generation. And make sure you give a kid with no money or parental college history a little benefit of the doubt to help out our broader society.
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The Bushes, FDR, and JFK went to top Ivies, probably based mostly on money and connections. W’s academics were nowhere near Yale level. Carter went to Navy. Nixon Duke Law, Ford Michigan and Yale Law, Clinton Georgetown, Oxford, and Yale Law, Trump U Penn / Wharton, W also Harvard MBA, Hoover went to Stanford,Wilson Princeton and Johns Hopkins PhD, T. Roosevelt and Taft went to Yale.
Exactly the sort of crimes RICO statutes were designed to address.
Will be interesting to see what the defense is, if all the wire-tap evidence is admissible. Especially on the tax fraud charges (claiming not only a bogus deduction but knowing there were direct benefits). And there were people who did it more than once.
Well Loughlin may still be getting to her hot yoga class , but photos of her and the hubby have them looking seriously tense!
I wonder how long before her kid starts speaking to her again?
Amazing that people with so much advantage created such a storm in their own lives and for what?
Did anyone hear NY sports radio Mad Dog Russo’s college rant yesterday? I don’t listen to his show but Howard Stern was talking about it so I listened to his rant online. I wonder how his daughter felt yesterday? Mad Dog must not read College Confidential!