In the latest God What A Waste news, after all this destruction the kids aren’t even in school this year:
https://www.today.com/news/lori-loughlin-s-daughters-are-no-longer-enrolled-usc-t165256
I feel sorry for all of the kids & parents involved in this college admissions scandal.
None of this would have happened if those in a position to admit students refused to participate.
Did Loughlin donate to the college directly or did the money go through Singer?
In all cases the money went through Singer. It wasn’t a donation to the college. It was a bribe to the coach.
I find it very interesting that you have many posts railing against Harvard and yet you yourself did a campus tour of Harvard by your own admission. Was that just to get intel about how god awful the place is or maybe, just maybe, a possible college option for your daughter?
Google says yes. His daughter goes to Yale.
@Sue22: But did the parents know that Singer was going to pass part of his “fee” on as a bribe ?
Regardless, photoshopping pictures in an attempt to trick admissions officers & false statements on college apps are unethical & ,possibly, illegal acts. But who did these acts ? The parents ? The students ? Rick Singer ? Someone else ?
P.S. All of this has probably been addressed in this thread, but there are too many posts to check.
I am posting because of today’s news that additional charges were filed today against Lori Loughlin & her husband.
@Publisher I have no sympathy for those parents who went through extreme lengths to falsify information, provide false SAT scores for their kids, and helped create false profiles, which included what can be considered identity theft (using another person’r image and name) to get their kids into a college prestigious enough to help the parents’ self worth.
I mean, if somebody stole property from someone else’s house, would you think that they were were worthy of sympathy because they bribed a guard to help them?
I do feel sympathy for those kids who were unaware of what their parents were doing, and the parents who were unaware of what their spouse was doing. If there are parents who were not aware that what they were doing was illegal, and their kids are now losing their place at college, I also feel sympathy for them.
@MWolf: I do not know all the details about the acts of those charged.
I do not think that your analogy merits sympathy–so we agree on that–but I just don’t know enough about the facts of each case in the college admissions scandal to comment further.
What I do know is that parents who paid to alter test scores or to alter photos or who lied on applications deserve to be punished. My main concern is that the punishment should fit the crime. Just because someone is wealthy & high profile does not justify a harsh sentence.
Ultimately, the goal was not murder or theft of property, but admission to college for unqualified students who happened to have wealthy parents. The means used corrupted the process, but those who controlled the means–the coaches–deserve more severe punishment than do the parents on the basis of the scant information that I know.
I think for most of these families the biggest punishment is the loss of their reputations. IMO Huffman’s punishment was just. I’d like to see Loughlin receive a harsher punishment because, honestly it bugs me that she’s maintaining her innocence, as if a kindergartener couldn’t see through the “I gave some guy a half a million dollars and sent faked pictures of my kid but I thought all I was doing was making a donation to a nonprofit to support underprivileged kids” defense.
@Publisher. There are people in jail for 10 years for having a dime bag of weed. That’s not fair and all should be let out.
People trying to use influence is a Grey area. People taking pictures of kids on rowing machines to supplement lying and telling the schools through application their in a rowing team or whatever is unjust and immoral. If there aren’t stiffer sentences this will never stop. This is a wake up call with those with influence that you can’t buy your way through life. The kids of these people are going to college if they choose that path . Maybe just not the “, one”, they want
“Stupid is as stupid does.”
LL says she thought her contribution was same as giving to the library fund. Say what?
I think one of the first issues is when people think they can pay a string of people to do so many tasks that they really should be involved in. (More than being responsible for photos to fake.) Starting with raising their own kids. No offense intended, but these folks live on a different planet.
Punishment for certain crimes needs to be severe enough for deterrent purpose. Like inside tradings, there’s too much temptation to cheat in college admissions, even for people who are otherwise law-abiding. Also like inside tradings, victims aren’t easily identifiable, but it surely isn’t a victim-less crime.
Stupidity is not a defense. No one I know cuts a check for $10,000 let alone $500,000, without knowing where it’s going to and for what purpose. So giving it to a non profit, to a very well known college counselor to the rich, with people in your circle, AND you just happen to have children applying to college… Then you take pictures of your children and give them to a stranger is just creepy to me and well past a coincidence.
I don’t think that is his daughter- she’s not college age yet. Couldn’t figure out where his son went…
There’s is no one and I mean no one in the USA doing ten years for a dime bag of weed. Only.
I agree with the sentiment but not the hyperbole.
https://www.alternet.org/2008/01/caught_with_a_bag_of_weed_it_could_cost_you_more_than_you_think/. Second offense up to ten years.
How about 12 years then https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/12/patricia-spottedcrow-marijuana-year-sentence/
I don’t have time now but it’s out there… Even if it’s a second or third offense it’s crazy especially given the new laws. Yes, just trying to make a point.
Kelly Williams-Bolar.
Tonya McDowell.
I feel sorry for them. I do not feel sorry for the VB parents.
Toby MacFarlane receives the longest sentence yet:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/13/us/toby-macfarlane-sentence-college-admissions-scandal/index.html
If the daughter actually wrote this, she apparently doesn’t fall far from the tree. Good grief, what shameless gall.
She really should have stopped at: “My parents have a hard time attending my soccer matches.” if she really has never played soccer.