Presumably, that (the lack of desirability of the commuter / non-traditional / online version of Harvard relative to the traditional Harvard) may be why highly desired US universities have gone to the high cost complete residential package that they are, rather than a lower cost model where the university’s business is limited to school, and maybe some basic dorms for new non-commuter students who are unfamiliar with the area.
“It’s wasn’t all that long ago that everyone knew USC as the U of Spoiled Children and it was known as a school for rich kids who couldn’t get admitted in to a UC.”
um , that was almost 3 DECADES ago.
Glad you had a good time at Riverside but dont disparage ALL USC alumni!
NOT everyone who has gone there in the past 10-15 years was a rich slacker.
some, like my DS and his fellow classmates/ roomates have gone onto PhD programs at Caltech, Princeton and MIT.
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@“Cardinal Fang” do you really think these kids would agree to attend a “lower level school” from what I read some them (at least but I’m guessing more) didn’t want to go to college in the first place they just wanted to go to college parties.
Has the IRS actually filed charges yet?
I don’t get why some people think the kids shouldn’t be expelled if they didn’t know what the parent was doing. If I robbed a bank and stole $500K and gave that money to my kids but didn’t tell them it was stolen, they wouldn’t get to keep the money after I got caught. These parents “stole” college admission for their kids so why should they get to keep it regardless of their knowledge? I don’t think the kids should be charge with a crime even if they did know something wasn’t right but they should not be able to keep the benefit of their parent’s crimes.
UCB. I took and certainly responded to PT as it was a little levity in this sea of darkness. No one is comparing the two experiences. It’s just a little strange to pay 6mm to get into a H equivalent .
As a stretched/humorous example posted by PT , that hypothetical student could live in a million dollar condo just off campus in the Harvard Square or nicer section. Drive a Bentley to school. Travel the world. Take the night classes on campus and receive a 4mm check as a grad present.
Haven’t read all 500+ posts so apologize if this has already been mentioned. As to the question of why Macy hasn’t been charged, or any of the kids for that matter, it’s possible that the feds are using them as bargaining chips in order to get some guilty pleas. Threatening to go after your kids or your spouse might be a very effective technique in bringing much of these indictments to a swift conclusion. Hard evidence implicating some of those kids as knowingly complicit - may be hard. Obviously there’s an “oh come on!” factor but the burden of proof in a criminal case is higher than that.
Wow. This is cringey… “I don’t know how much of school I’m gonna attend,” Lori Loughlin’s daughter Olivia Jade Giannulli told nearly 2 million subscribers in August. “But I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying… I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”
I’m talking about the students who did not know they got the admissions boost. If they hadn’t gotten it, most of them would have gone to a lower level school. So yeah, I do think they’d agree to it. Let me be clear: they should not be allowed to stay at the school they were fraudulently admitted to. But they should also not be expelled.They should be assisted to quietly transfer. They should not be punished for something they did not do
Look at the one kid who was deferred at Stanford, and then his parent signed up for the phony sailing scheme. I don’t know if the kid knew about it, but the kid ended up not at Stanford but at another school. A student who is deferred at Stanford probably has a lot of other good choices.
@3sonsmom - 100% agree with your post. The dimwit celebrity is annoyed that GOD FORBID her child ends up at Arizona State. The kid should BE so lucky. Nothing wrong with ASU. And I am a graduate of U of Arizona - so I actually shouldn’t be saying that.
Bribing people who control a very valuable commodity is a time tested crime. What is surprising is that more actual AO’s haven’t been caught selling admission. Is that the next scandal?
“It’s wasn’t all that long ago that everyone knew USC as the U of Spoiled Children and it was known as a school for rich kids who couldn’t get admitted in to a UC.”
um , that was almost 3 DECADES ago.
Glad you had a good time at Riverside but dont disparage ALL USC alumni!
NOT everyone who has gone there in the past 10-15 years was a rich slacker.
some, like my DS and his fellow classmates/ roomates have gone onto PhD programs at Caltech, Princeton and MIT."
@menloparkmom …completely true! USC is great for the majority…feel sorry for all of the scandals, cheating, and so forth now adversely affecting the school. Love watching USC football though…will see if keeping Clay Helton as coach was the right decision soon enough!
I just went to high school with so many of those “rich slacker” types and could never really relate to it or those people…they were not nice to people “different” from them. Has to do with the fact that I lived in a “middle class” area when young with very frugal “saver” parents that had to sacrifice to “move up” to the “rich” area. Have never forgotten that and always stay true to myself and those values.