If she was on a scholarship and couldn’t afford to pay it is a different ending to that story.
And your neighbor certainly had to talk to some staff and administrators.
The issue is that some think these fake student athletes didn’t know and just showed up at school and no one inquired. Ever.
But this is different. The kids aren’t Olympic champions. They own a sailboat perhaps but aren’t nationally ranked sailors. Own a racket but don’t play d1 or ivy level tennis. These sports are super commitments over years and would have been intertwined into their applications. If not, shame on the admissions teams too.
I’d like to know why these parents thought it was so imperative that their kids attended these particular schools. What did they think would happen if their kids went somewhere else?
Also be interested in seeing what happens when the press starts asking questions like: “President/Provost/Head of the Trustees…” Joe Schmo, the integrity of the admissions process at (Stanford, Yale, insert name of top 100 institution here) has been called into question by the athletic recruit cheating scandal. It would be very easy for you to pull the records of every admit who received a recruiting preference and verify their athletic credentials. Will you do this to restore credibility to your institution?"
@tdy123 if the fbi finds that their is a bigger problem and they open up a bigger investigation then this would create a huge fear by university admin… there is more as they’ve stated their is in their conference call and I don’t think it’s another 40 I think it’s bigger… lots of celebs
@TatinG It wouldn’t have helped. The test administrator was in on the scheme.
@gallentjill In one case at least, it took 3 tries and lawyer threats to ACT. But I agree, I thought you had to show evidence of accommodations and LD from an early age and the HS had to write a letter supporting it too.
@airway1 at a NESCAC school (I realize it’s not Ivy D1) the recruited athletes are told DO NOT write your admissions essays about athletics. But they are ‘generally’ more likely to be academically closer to the student population than Ivy D1, where it’s well known MUCH lower test scores are acceptable for the entire recruit class. For non-football my impression at the top academic NESCAC teams is about ~2 slots are allowed for someone who wouldn’t get in. Girls soccer at HYP etc… where they get 7 slots a year would actually be a great place to “sell” 2 slots a year in theory without impacting the team quality. However, anyone in the girls soccer community could see that Yale’s efforts were a bit off compared to other Ivies. (rarely present at showcases, etc.) But a desirable enough school that even without trying great players want to go there (due to academics).
From what I read, the feds found out about this by accident while investigating another situation. These indictments may open up more investigations as people come forward admitting to being parts of schemes in order to be cooperating witnesses and avoid prosecution themselves.
@anon145 Agree not the personal esssy topic. My greatest game etc.
But didn’t your son have to produce a resume and list ecs like my d did for her Nescac apps? Didn’t he list his football involvement. Awards. Years. Captaincy?
Just read an article on Yahoo that indicates Huffman’s daughters are 18 and 16–so it seems to be the older one (who has the scam score) who is currently applying for theater programs.
@theloniusmonk it would remember famous parents and full paying… but then again she wanted USC… anyone else jumping from 1020 to 1420 would be investigated…
@tdy123@airway1 usually the head coach is not assigned all the recruiting duties, so what investigators should be looking at is do they have access to all of Yale’s ex coach’s emails? Presumably one of the the assistant coaches would question offering one of the 7 precious slots to a no name. So what happened with the assistant coach at Yale .
One thing that I always found unfair is how “regular” kids constantly are accommodations. My son is always telling me how so many of these kids get extra time which is extremely unfair. He knows that if he had extra time, he would do much much better on the SAT/ACT. He feels these kids should have an asterisk and colleges should be aware of who is who. Granted lots of kids have learning disabilities, but as many of you know, there is a whole group out there that don’t. Perhaps, it should be the same for everyone.
@privatebanker True “But didn’t your son have to produce a resume and list ecs like my d did for her Nescac apps? Didn’t he list his football involvement. Awards. Years. Captaincy?”
but if you saw the high school in the south that got minority kids into great schools, the “principal” was actually logging into their questbridge/common app and uploading essays etc… It’s not impossible to think these folks could access common app etc. and change it. Given that’s the easy thing in the process.
@got2laugh I so agree! My kid (second) had the same complaint… first of all if there was an issue it would have been flagged early. If the parents did not invest then they loose that option… we were told our son had issue we refused treatment and worked with him and he got into a college without flagging him
@privatebanker perhaps these students are having “consultants” do the entire application process for them and they don’t even see their own application? Perhaps all they do is show up for the test date, make a signature here and there, and that’s it? I imagine that if they have been accustomed to a life of privilege, that the student wouldn’t find it unusual.
