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The black panther comic predates the black panther party, which was not exactly known to be a friendly/non-violent group of people. The comic was said to inspire the movement, which, for some people, could cause discomfort. There was even a black panther comic titled “Panther vs. the Klan”, in which klan was a reference to the KKK.

^So if a pilot deemed a “Making America Great Again” hat is inappropriate they can remove passenger from a plane if he/she refuses to take it off?

How about a Thwab? Or a Hijab? What about a person with a Nazi tattoo?

I don’t get the rationale that if a slogan on someone’s clothing causes someone else “discomfort” that the person has a right to demand that they change their clothes or get off the plane. Including the pilot. What if a hijab or a yarmulke causes discomfort? What if a Make America Great Again or an I’m With Her t-shirt causes discomfort? Seems to me that the pilot needs to get over him or herself. Unless the passenger is wearing something that directly advocates hijacking or destroying the plane that would reasonably frighten reasonable passengers, go back to your cabin and fly the plane, already.

I know. That’s why I posted what I posted.

It’s a Black Panther hat, not a Black Panther Party hat. For a person to look at the hat at surface level and decide it stands for something that it doesn’t, is disappointing.

EDIT: Who cares if the Black Panther fought the Klan in one comic. (Is that a bad thing?) Was I supposed to be erring on the side of caution when I went to see the Captain America movie and the Black Panther was in it? It’s a Marvel Superhero.

We surely can distinguish between two: the Black Panther and the Black Panther Party.

“The black panther comic predates the black panther party, which was not exactly known to be a friendly/non-violent group of people. The comic was said to inspire the movement, which, for some people, could cause discomfort. There was even a black panther comic titled “Panther vs. the Klan”, in which klan was a reference to the KKK.”

So?

What was Amanda wearing that was inappropriate?

It would be interesting to know how many people who support the safe space/trigger warning movement do not support this particular situation. If someone can be triggered by “Trump 2016” spray painted on the sidewalk, then someone else has an equal right to be triggered by a black panther hat.

Where does the madness end? :wink:

Yes, but there is a loose connection between the comic book and the violent party. This could make some people feel uncomfortable, especially if a family/friend member was killed or injured by one of the BPP supporters.

BTW, I had never heard of the comic character before this. I am really NOT into comics. But I don’t care if the hat DID refer to Black Panther Party. The person has a right to wear it.

On another note, I was confused by the picture and the name Amanda also. But I assume that Amanda may be a trans woman. In the interest of accepting people’s gender identity, I would refrain from making jokes about her needing a shave.

If that person has the right to wear it, then the whole safe space/trigger warning movement just became invalid.

I’m ok with that. B-)

Thank you for addressing that, @Consolation. The comment was childish and unnecessary.

I seem to be at a loss on your presented argument, @fractalmstr. Who has the right to be triggered? Huh?

“I don’t get the rationale that if a slogan on someone’s clothing causes someone else “discomfort” that the person has a right to demand that they change their clothes or get off the plane. Including the pilot. What if a hijab or a yarmulke causes discomfort? What if a Make America Great Again or an I’m With Her t-shirt causes discomfort? Seems to me that the pilot needs to get over him or herself. Unless the passenger is wearing something that directly advocates hijacking or destroying the plane that would reasonably frighten reasonable passengers, go back to your cabin and fly the plane, already”

Except this wasn’t a hijab, a yarmulke, or a political t-shirt. It was a hat, and a shirt with an upside down flag. And according to the story, the person was asked to remove the hat. It sounds like she was kicked off because of having a confrontation with the flight attendant. It is likely the pilot never noticed the hat, but was told about it by a flight attendant who was uncomfortable. There is always more to the story.

Now as a passenger, I doubt I’d care if someone is wearing that kind of attire. I might think they were someone looking for attention and pretty pathetic, and really hope they weren’t going to sit down next to me. But if that person was getting into a confrontation with a flight attendant? I want them off the plane, right now. Anybody here want to sit on a flight with someone who is looking for a fight?

“Thank you for addressing that, @Consolation. The comment was childish and unnecessary.”

No, I think people are just confused when they are reading the story. On initial read, it appeared as if this was talking about two different people’s incidences.

Anybody get want to fly with a flight attendant who is looking for a fight?

I don’t know the whole story, but both the party’s game.

Ok. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.

“Anybody get want to fly with a flight attendant who is looking for a fight?”

I have flown close to 500,000 miles in the past decade, mostly short flights, and have never encountered a flight attendant who was looking for a fight.

So the woman in the OP was denied an opportunity to be a good samaritan. I would be very, very mad about the whole incident (as I have been in her shoes sort of because some of my employers thought that blond young ladies by definition knew nothing about my field of work). But a lawsuit? I am wondering what her cause of action will be in the lawsuit she has hinted at…

“Except this wasn’t a hijab, a yarmulke, or a political t-shirt. It was a hat, and a shirt with an upside down flag.”

So? What makes that inappropriate garb to wear on a plane?

@busdriver11 , then the flight attendant needed to be told to MYOB, unless it is a rule that passengers can’t wear hats.

Do you think that flight attendants should be going around confronting passengers about the slogans on their t-shirts and hats?

Now, it’s perfectly possible that the flight attendant initially accosted the passenger about her attire, and then after the passenger was upset lied to the pilot, who as a matter of routine said to take her off the plane.

I know someone who was taken off a plane because of the extremely unreasonable behavior of a flight attendant, unreasonable to the degree that surrounding passengers vocally objected and then pressed their business cards on the travelling companion and said they would be witnesses. It happens.

“No, I think people are just confused when they are reading the story. On initial read, it appeared as if this was talking about two different people’s incidences.”

Just no. People saw her picture in the article and decided it couldn’t be a women from her looks.

Perhaps, “looking for a fight” is a bit of an exaggeration, but from my perspective, I’m trying to think of how the conversation could’ve escalated and how both parties contributed to the tension. Why did Amanda have to remove her hat? Are all flyers required to take off their hats?

If I was in her shoes, I’d be mad. I’d also feel embarrassed and want to get the flight over with as fast as possible. I would not engage in a verbal scuffle because usually in the end I’d be off the flight and the flight attendant would continue her job.

Edited

So it’s ok to make jokes about being disheveled and hallucinating or being delusional, but at not ok to say someone with facial hair needs a shave. I see…

“I have flown close to 500,000 miles in the past decade, mostly short flights, and have never encountered a flight attendant who was looking for a fight.”

I have encountered more than a few with attitude, however, including one on a recent flight who was extremely rude to several other passengers (not me). There are definitely some unhappy flight attendants out there.

^ I never said one thing about anyone being disheveled etc. my first comment on this thread was to post the Amanda incident. I haven’t even made one post about the OP story.