Flip This House #4

I had better get myself to the grocery store now - I hope they have some scraps of something left for Thanksgiving dinner. And now I get to start cleaning my house and getting ready for 20 at dinner tomorrow!

I should be able to at least share the offers later tonight.

I actually do not get my money disbursed until Monday. Because the recording did not happen until about noon today, the title company cannot do all of their calculations and get a wire sent to my bank before the 1pm West Coast wiring cutoff. It boggles me that the bank wire system is so old fashioned that they cut off at 1:30pm because it’s 4:30pm East Coast. I mean really… it’s all done by computers. We get shafted out here on the West Coast.

Which means I will not really know my final numbers until Monday. I will have to pay interest on all the debt until I can get my hands on the money and do my payoffs. At least I was able to stop the clock ticking on utilities, property taxes, insurance and two loans that are recorded. I feel sorry for the private lender with the recorded Trust Deeds. He gets shafted too. The title company stops his interest on date of close of escrow (today), but they will take their sweet time sending him a paper check via snail mail sometime next week.

The buyer wanted my phone number because she wants to ‘friend’ me. I coyly told her that, for now, it is best that any communication goes through my real estate agent. I just don’t want to get put into any unreasonable liability situations.

Don’t need another crazy stalker!

I’m looking closely at the property on Catalina but it is on a busy street and my agent doesn’t like that it only has 1,100sq ft. She said that small size is a hard sale in the neighborhood.

@coralbrook Did you look at the street view for the Catalina property? The boat across the street looks like a permanent fixture with the blocks around the trailer wheels.

You are wise to keep a little distance between you and the buyer, at least for the time being. Keep it a professional relationship.

Congratulations!

How lovely that the buyers are so delighted with their new house! And money in the bank, making its way to you! Happy Thanksgiving, cb.

I also would keep it professional–that’s why you aren’t your own realtor! Let your realtor earn her commission and be the “monkey in the middle.” You bet the banks and others that keep the archaic system like it the way it is so that they can take advantage of the float between when they can tie up your funds and when they have to release said funds. It’s bad, but it’s the system we all have to deal with–for now.

If I inherited a million dollars I don’t think I could spend it all on one investment!

My fantasy retirement includes purchasing a Club 33 membership at Disneyland and spending the winter months in SoCal. (People in Wisconsin often have a retirement home in Florida - too humid for me - California all the way!).

Congratulations! What an exciting day for you - sounds like the most personal sale you’ve done. Have a peaceful Thanksgiving with your family!

Offers
Friday evening my agent got a call from Son agent that his clients were going to make an offer. They just sold a 10,000 sq ft house in Poway, they moved out of state and Nipoma was perfect as a place in San Diego for vacation home for their family. I was told to sit tight.

Friday about 7:30pm offer comes in at $940,000, all cash, 30 day escrow, $500 home warranty. No proof of funds and very sloppy, missing a lot of details. In the submittal email he explains that his clients felt it was a fair offer based on comparable sales.

I sat on it and, luckily, my agent was busy on Saturday so I spent the day crunching numbers and researching comparables. My agent picked comparables in immediate neighborhood and came up with average $990k average between fixed up nice and fixers. We felt the superior view justified asking price. My agent called all other agents with interested clients and we did not get any response.

On Sunday morning I was resigned to the fact that this was the only offer we were going to get. We prepared a detailed counter offer, with supporting comparables, at $985,000 and I knew there would probably be more back and forth. And then we get the famous phone call. I met the other buyers at the house. Meanwhile original agent starts calling for an answer and is informed that there are other buyers. One hour later we receive phone call. If I agree not to counter for highest and best, they will write an offer full price, all cash, 14 day inspection, close in 17 days. Buyer’s agent will pay for home warranty. Their agent asked detail questions on all terms needed to make a clean offer (as an agent should).

Two hours later, at 10:30 Sunday night we receive a new offer from original agent for $990,000, still sloppy and 30 days escrow. With an email explaining that his clients feel it is a fair offer because they need to put in master closet and a shower enclosure. I go to sleep knowing I made the right decision. My agent calls and lets me know that new agent is working hard on preparing all the docs and we will have written offer in our in box Monday morning.

Monday morning we have a fully executed offer, all terms clean that was sent 2am. I asked my agent to first do housekeeping and execute a formal rejection to first offer. So we sent that out first. We immediately received an email offer back from Mom agent, $10,000 over asking price with all kinds of language about how we were ‘in negotiations’ and it was not professional to accept another offer. “Please accept this offer” It was not a written offer on a contract. And, now that I think about it, it was only 6am in Hawaii where buyers lived so I’m not sure if Hawaii Pro Senior Golfer was behind the offer. Maybe they went to sleep Sunday telling their agent we will go to X to get the house. Who knows?

Moral dilemma but I stuck to my verbal promise and went ahead and did a formal acceptance. They came back with a formal written backup that was $5k over asking and still very sloppy. I had to spend time sending a counter to clean up the terms. She didn’t even get back to us about the counter until yesterday.

So, I turned down $10,000 (my D keeps pointing out its almost one semester of tuition) but in reality it would have been reduced by $500 commission, $500 home warranty and 20 more days of carrying costs which is close to $4,000. And who knows how much for repairs and credits. My buyers were extremely reasonable, inspector probably wrote up 30 issues and they only asked for 5 reasonable fixes, actually things we missed that were important like a carbon monoxide detector downstairs and GFI protected outlet at one of the kitchen locations.

And the title company gets to enjoy $999k in their account until Monday afternoon. They are the winners here. Buyers did a smart thing and sent wire straight into title company (who is responsible for loan payoffs and does the actual recording) instead of sending it into the escrow company middle man. When its a cash transaction I’m starting to wonder why we bother with escrow companies

For some reason when you talked about the offer being well over asking, I was imagining more like $30-40k, not just $10k.

For what they offered, I think you definitely made the right choice.

Definitely the right choice. You dodged the headaches you would have had dealing with the momma/sonny’s buyers! Enjoy your holiday feast and relax. :slight_smile:

You clearly made the right choice. $10k for sloppiness and untold headaches, carrying costs and who knows how much quibbling and extra credits–definitely only a masochist would consider second guessing herself. I suspect you will clear more than you would gave with mom/son offer, and deserve not to have the added aggravation over just a few thousand $$!

cb, you clearly made the right decision. Sleep well this weekend!!!

Have a great Thanksgiving, coralbrook – and thanks for another lovely flip view.

So glad you didn’t get into negotiations with buyer #1. This was a better deal all around. Happy Thanksgiving!

I forgot to mention the potential 3rd offer. An agent who had brought their clients through multiple times and had told us ‘my buyers are going to make an offer’ called up about 1/2 hour after we went Pending in MLS. “My buyers are so disappointed, they were just about to make an offer, please let us know if the escrow falls out”. My agent had called him twice on Saturday to let him know that we had an offer and were his clients still interested in the house? He never called back. It’s curious how he acted surprised on Monday when we went Pending.

It’s a real estate game…reminds me of car buying.