Flip This House #5

I’m afraid I’m not familiar with Kon-Mari… I just know that personally, just the shoes alone have taken over my closet! I could probably throw some out if I ever had enough time to think about it :slight_smile:

Luckily, angling everything around is something I can do when I can actually stand on a floor in the vicinity of the new bathroom. Or, I could try to lay out a fake bathroom in the large bedroom downstairs (if it wasn’t filling up with a bunch of stuff that I keep insisting we are going to ‘save’). My carpenter just laughs because at the end of the project we are stuck with a bunch of doors and windows that I insisted on repurposing but they don’t end up working anywhere. And, at that point we don’t have a dumpster and we have to make a special run to the dump just to get rid of the stuff I tried to save. Would have been much easier to throw these things out when there is a dumpster in the driveway.

Right now I have about 6-7 doors saved and they really aren’t that wonderful, I’m just hanging on to them to preserve the history of the house. But, that means that about 3/4 of downstairs will have original doors but everything else is going to have to be new doors that probably will not match.

The only thing I cannot really mess with is that there is a requirement of minimum 24" length x 30" in front of the toilet and there is a minimum requirement for shower size. I’m OK on shower size, but if I angle a toilet door I might encroach onto minimum distance in front of the toilet.

We are spending a lot of time closing up things in hallways, bedrooms and bathrooms and opening up other things to make larger closets and larger bathroom. I loaded some photos to Flickr. It’s hard to tell from the photos.

do you REALLY need 3 [3!] tubs in one relatively smallish home??
There was only 1 in the last one. It did not make it less saleable.
I say eliminate the one in the MB and enlarge that shower into a large, luxurious one that 2 adults might like to share[ at the same time!] . That would also make it easier to position the toilet so it is not crammed in the corner.

Very good point. I’ve seen a lot of the freestanding tubs (I know I know… cleaning nightmare) in high end homes. It appears that high end homes need shower and tub in master bath. Right now I have one tub in the hallway bathroom and I’m trying to decide between shower or tub in the shared jack/jill bath. Obviously there might be small children in there that need a bathtub, but a shower would be much nicer for older kids

“It appears that high end homes need shower and tub in master bath.”
well sure, if you have 400 sq ft of space to work with! Giant jacuzzi tubs and huge showers would be par for the course in a “luxurious” home.
But that is not the case here.
No kiddy is going to need take a bath upstairs in the MBR bath.
Make it look more spacious by eliminating the standard size tub

I would vote for a tub in the jack and Jill.

We NEVER and I mean NEVER use the tub in our master bath. It’s a total waste of space. We never used it when our kids were younger either.

But we did use the tub in the main all upstairs bath. Plus…some guests actually like tubs.

But in the master…I would rather have a nice luxurious shower with more space, and a nice jet sort of shower thing.

OK, just discussed with agent. Removing bathtub from master bathroom ( great suggestion) and putting in a really cool large walk in shower (without door… it slopes down slightly for drainage) with a long skinny window up at about 5’ to enjoy the view while taking a shower! I have to analyze that a bit to make sure that no one can see into the shower from any angle. We should be up high enough on the hill. Even if just your head shows, it’s not fun to be on display :slight_smile:

I wouldn’t buy a house without a soaking tub in the master bath; it is my primary source of relaxation after a stressful day at the office. I use mine 4 times a week.

I did consider a flip without a tub in the master bath and after deciding it was too complicated to change, I passed.

I think you’d be surprised by how much of a selling point it is. Go back to your model homes that you were using as research; they all have the soaking tubs. And look at the high end hotels; the expensive rooms have the tubs.

I think it would be a very, very big mistake to eliminate.

If you do analyze the view into the shower, have a 6’ tall woman stand in there at night with lights on! I had to crouch for 20 years to avoid giving everyone a show from my “view” shower. (Actually, to tell the truth, I finally decided that if I couldn’t see anyone looking in, I was probably fine, so I stopped crouching). If I had been a 6’ man or 5’6" woman I would have been fine!

I also would not buy a place without a soaking tub. My bath is the highlight of my day.
Would a Japanese soaking style tub fit?

H and I have not had a tub bath in the decades of our marriage, not missed it. We are all so different. I don’t believe my folks have had a tub bath in my lifetime. D, on the other hand adores tub baths and takes them frequently. I don’t see why any house would need 3 tubs, in any case.

CB…do,your market research. If a master tub could make or break the sale of this house…well then consider it.

You will still have two bathtubs in the house, right?

Just make sure if you do leave out that master tub, that the shower is really special…and I do think the shower spray itself will be important…multiple jets…really luxurious.

ETA…I don’t want to be the one making a suggestion that could impact your sale. I’m just saying my own feeling…but then…I’m not going to be buying this house!

Several of the upscale homes I’ve been in have multiple (or at least dual) shower heads in the larger master shower, for couples showering? That may also be something to consider.

cb…I’d probably be wowed by the tub when in the buying process…but hopefully be yanked back to the reality that I’ve not used ours in 23 years. The tub in the kid’s bath was used a lot–when they were toddlers. Maybe ten times since elementary school? Goskid2 graduated college in 2014 (who is here now) cannot remember when he last used tub. I’d go with the luxurious MBR shower…

We have an old claw foot tub that H uses 4-5 times a week and I use about once a week. We love it! So nice that it’s a deep soak, that’s what I like, I’m not a big fan of jetted tubs and the bacteria they recirculate. I like the Japanese tub suggestion, or any other smaller tub that would be deep but take up a smaller footprint.

We visit a house that has a huge shower and I have to say I get a bit chilly in there. Maybe it’s my frugal nature but I don’t want two shower heads and jets everywhere. Would the water pressure still be good with both of them on? Does San Diego have water restrictions about things like that?

ETA - another thing to consider - would anyone want a hot tub out on the deck? If you remove the tub, you could make sure there is plumbing available out there and adequate structure to support it if they want to add that. How nice, a tub with a view…

Don’t have a tub in my master bath, it’s not big enough. Haven’t missed it for 20+ years.

You could do something like a steam/shower combo, those are pretty fancy: http://www.efaucets.com/detail.asp?product_id=DZ972-1F8-BLK

We have a dual showerhead shower! Love it. At first, we laughed when the builder mentioned this was coming in the design, but now I would definitely want this feature in my next house.

I cannot stand gimmicky rain and massage showers, but some folks like them. A digital shower control with led lights and his and her preset shower temperatures could be a neat attention-grabber.

What about a mini- hot tub thing on the deck or have they gone the way of the dodo bird in drought-stricken SD?

The Japanese deep tub could be a space-saving, deep soak compromise. That said, my bro and SIL remodeled their home and took out the Japanese furo, and one other tub. I believe they left one tub but put in a powder room and two luxurious showers, one with no walls or doors but built-in bench (which was handy when I had broken fibula or could have wheelchair access).

Agree that your market research and realtor should have better insights about what YOUR buyers want.