Are stove vents required? My cook top and wall oven are on/in my island and there is nothing hanging down from the ceiling above them.
Sometimes they have vents that go down. They probably are required, at least in CA wildfire country.
Here in WA, a downdraft vent is required (at least it was when our house was built) for the stove. No ventilation for the ovens, as far as I know. Downdraft vents are lousy and noisy, so I rarely use mine. They pop out of the counter behind the stove top like this:
http://m.sears.com/kenmore-elite-36inch-down-draft-hood-59966/p-02259966000P
@Madison85 if you have no ventilation what prevents your house from filling with smoke and smells?
I wonder if you need a vent if the stove has a window behind it. Assuming that the window opens.
Wow, googling the issue brought up some links. Apparently, there are no requirements for residential kitchen ventilation in many localities, but if a ventilation is installed, then there are codes covering the installation.
I guess I don’t cook smokey smelly food?
I agree that the sink should stay where it is. People can sit and chat across from you when you work at the sink; I wouldn’t want people sitting across from a hot stove. And, if the stove got moved, if people were already sitting at the counter area when you started to cook at the stove, they would probably want to move. Also, having the stove there would make the dining room feel like part of the kitchen, in my opinion. You should definitely keep the layout as it is.
Madison, you probably have a pop-up vent (not sure of terminology) behind the stove that you just don’t use.
I have a big old fancy hood above my stove, but I have two windows next to my stove that are usually open when I’m cooking. I rely on the windows for ventilation, usually, but maybe that’s because I don’t know enough about the advantages of using the ventilation hood.
I would hope the architect would focus on stuff where his expertise could really be valuable, like whether the massing and roof geometry for second floor addition works aesthetically and how to make sure the addition reads as part of an integrated whole with the rest of the building, rather than something that was added on.
That’s what is hard to tell from the drawings.
The sink and stove placement are really a matter of common sense and real-world experience, where specialized expertise doesn’t add all that much.
I had a down-draft vent in my old house. I hated it. That said, I don’t know if I hate all down-draft vents, or only that one. When it was installed, it had several “elbows” through which it needed to vent. It was never particularly strong.
The Vent-a-Hood above-the-cooktop vent that I have now is much, much better, but I don’t think it has any elbows in it at all.
Nope, no pop-up vent. Just a cook top, and underneath that, a wall oven.
I didn’t hire the architect, he just showed up with the draftsman to help take measurements with the laser measure thingy. Maybe he just wanted to get out ofthe office or something. I explained that I have to focus on buyer perception and not true functionality, although because I’m a woman I can’t help but focus on functionality when it comes to kitchens.
I believe our jurisdiction requires stove vent in new construction, but not a remodel. The irony is that noone can force someone to actually turn it on:) same with bath fans
Speaking of stove vent… I went through Pacific Sales today focusing on floor model sales. I stumbled across an absolute deal. I bought a high end vent inset with a really cool feature. It sits only about 10" out from back wall, inset into the drywall styled vent we are going to build. There is a thin stainless lip in front and you pull it out to cover stove, when needed. This will give us a low profile so that we don’t block the angled windows on each side of the window.
Ohh, and most important, $1,200 regular price. Marked down to $400 as a return in box!!! So I have one appliance down now
Nothing good at Sears Outlet but Pacific Sales did have a Viking 36" cook top (top knobs) that was sexy looking on sale $1,400. I may buy it if i cannot find anything better in the budget. Just for the brand recognition
Appliance Warranties
I asked specific questions about warranty at Pacific Sales, which is one of the larger appliance chains in Southern California, specializing in higher end appliances.
If purchasing an item from stock, floor model, discontinued or special markdown, you have to take delivery within 1 week. Warranty starts on date of delivery. Registering via the little card or website does not affect the begin date of warranty (or everyone would not register until they had a problem to postpone the start of the warranty)
If purchasing a new appliance, you can postpone receipt and delivery for several months to delay warranty. I’m guessing this is because the appliance will not arrive into their warehouse/store until a future date.
For example, I purchased a ‘return / floor model’ from the back of their store. He kept insisting it was ‘As Is’ and I told him that I need to make sure it actually turns on. Since it is hard wired there was no way to test it in the store. He said, if it does not turn on then I can call manufacturer for the warranty. But, this might be an interesting case… what if they delivered that to someone 6 months ago and it was returned. Now, it is in their mark down area, but when did the warranty start? When delivered to first customer or when delivered to next customer?
Here is manufacturer, model and photos of the interesting slide out venting I purchased
When we built our house, we ordered seven new appliances…everything. It was all held in the warehouse of the local appliance store until about two weeks before out closing. Once they were delivered to our house…the warranty began.
I should add, we actually ordered a fridge…which was in that warehouse…and realized it wasn’t going to work in the spot. I honestly wondered what the store would do. No problem! It was one of their top sellers, and they were delighted to have one in stock. Didn’t even charge us a restocking fee. Of course…we ordered the more expensive by double replacement from them too!
That’s interesting… I’m going to push them a little more on this because I know there are a lot of homeowners and builders that have to buy appliances months before they are installed - in order to know where to run gas lines and electrical for each appliance (and order kitchen cabinets correctly)
Love your slide out vent! A couple of years ago we rented a lake house that had a 36" slide out vent like yours over a 30" cooktop. I was skeptical at first, not realizing it would slide out and provide great coverage, but we all liked it.
In our county there appears to be no requirement for venting ranges or cooktops to the outside, even if they’re gas. I’ve seen quite a few non-vented OTR microwaves that just have a charcoal filter. I tried asking the local building inspector about make-up air requirements for XL vent hoods and he just looked at me as if that was the dumbest question he’d ever heard.
No requirement for outside venting here either…and lots of folks have those charcoal vent things.
We, OTOH, have the most expensive over the stove microwave made…ours vents outside. When the microwave dies, we will get a vent only…and a teeny counter size microwave.
" Pacific Sales did have a Viking 36" cook top (top knobs) that was sexy looking on sale $1,400"
terrific! I have always liked that store! That slide out vent is ultra cool!
we are buying a condo in Pasadena that will need a new stove and Pacific Sales is the first place I’m going to look!
“in order to know where to run gas lines and electrical for each appliance”
Not really.
ALL specs and instillation instructions can be downloaded these days from the manufacturers website.
All you need is the model #.