Flip This House - Number Two

<p>I have an update on one of the houses I was looking at last year when I bought Flip#1 in La Mesa. It was the extreme hoarding house with trash and cat food cans piled at least 5 ft high in every room.
House was original Craftsman, small lot in this same neighborhood. Multiple offers, you couldn’t even get into the house to inspect, all boarded up. Sold by daughter, I cannot believe her Mom was living there.
I had made a very conservative offer at $420k and another investor bought it for $455k.</p>

<p>I drove by today and it was bulldozed with new construction. Guessing City condemned it and investor had to do new construction! They’ve been holding that for 7 months now and not even close to done. </p>

<p>Dodged another bullet:) that could’ve been me in that mess. I paid 35k less for mine and it is in a superior location in the neighborhood!!</p>

<p>Oh my. CB, that would have been terrible to own. And such a shame that they had to bulldoze a nice (potentially) Craftsman. I love those houses.</p>

<p>I assume an investor bought it, cannot tell from MLS, it was sold by the listing broker. The title company profile will not be updated much later. It was closed on 3/14!</p>

<p>Come to think of, no one in the right mind will buy it for owner occupation, there is only one master suite can be lived in, if that.</p>

<p>I wonder if that contractor is charging the buyer by the hour…</p>

<p>Me too. </p>

<p>Still trying to get these tile guys to give me their estimate. Finally tracked one of them down and he quoted $11,400 which includes thinset and materials. Not tile. Highway robbery but I’m stuck trying to find someone.</p>

<p>On Project #2… more tile guys coming tomorrow morning to give estimates. I just cannot believe that $11,400 is a reasonable price for the tile install.</p>

<p>Spent the whole morning with buyer of Spanish Bungalow who flew in from Pennsylvania to make some final decisions. She went to my guy and finalized her kitchen layout and we pulled the trigger on the cabinet order. She wanted so many upgrades, etc. but she was absolutely reasonable about it. I told her what my budget was, she didn’t try to negotiate at all. In the end I paid for my portion of the cabinets and she paid for everything above that amount. she paid about $5k of the cabinet cost. She was very nice about it and she is going to have a lovely kitchen. Originally she wanted stained medium brown cabinetry with soapstone cabinets. But she finally came around and is having lovely linen color painted Shaker cabinets with a slightly variegated soapstone.</p>

<p>Then this afternoon I spent 3 hours in Lowe’s with Project #2 owner picking out lighting, tile, etc. Another $2,200 spent at Lowe’s. Busy day spending lots of money :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Can’t your lead guy do tile work? It’s not rocket science.</p>

<p>For Project #2 there is a very complex master bathroom shower. We are going to do a ‘walk in’ shower with no dam. We have to modify the actual floor joist structure on the 2nd floor bath to drop the floor joists gradually. The tile guy has to be very experienced because it is his job to deck sand the sloping floor carefully to make sure no water flows out to the regular bath floor. There will be about 4’ of regular dam with glass panel, but 4 feet of entry is at floor level with no dam.</p>

<p>Plus, there is at least 2-3 weeks of tile work in Project #2 and I cannot afford my lead to spend 2-3 weeks doing the tile, I am so desperate for him to keep up with all of the carpentry, plumbing and gas lines across the two projects. Poor guy wants to know when he can take a long vacation since he has been working non stop since Flip #1 last August.</p>

<p>Bingo! Found a great tile guy. He is very experienced with the type of shower we are doing and I really need to find someone I can trust to do this exotic shower design. He has done several steam shower enclosures, a couple of walk in showers and wanted to tell me all about how he just finished a ‘party shower’. I don’t think I even want to know what a party shower is. I would need to get my Old Fart Club card laminated before I started doing any google research into ‘party shower’.</p>

<p>Here is our raw square footage (not including waste %)
Fire Place 76 sq ft
Kitchen Floor 150 sq ft
Tub Surrounding 77 sq ft
Floor 49 sq ft
Master Walls 150 sq ft
Master Floor 60 sq ft</p>

<p>He is between jobs right now and I’m going to let him squeeze the work between another shower he is doing. He wants to get my future business so he gave me an incredible deal… $4,700! That compares very well with the $11,400 quoted by the first guy. Price includes the materials for the deck mud and wall coating needed in the fancy shower, but I am buying all the Hardibacker and Thin Set for the job.</p>

<p>I am going to have him do the kitchen floor and watch very carefully. If he shows up with all the right tools and looks like he and his team are really skilled then I 'll let him move on to the hard stuff.</p>

<p>Awesome! That’s a big savings. I hope he turns out to be very good.</p>

<p>On a related note, anyone else planning to watch American Dream Builders on NBC tomorrow night? I would be interested to hear what our resident experts, coralbrook and artloverplus, have to say.</p>

<p>I’m not familiar with the show. Can you explain about it a little bit?</p>

<p>Probably Dream Builders is a show about building something really nice? I never get to build something really nice. </p>

<p>Just search “NBC American Dream Builder” there are clippings on the web site. Premier is tomorrow. </p>

<p>PROGRESS UPDATE</p>

<p>This week was another whirlwind at the Spanish Bungalow project. </p>

<p>On Tuesday night the Buyer flew in from Pennsylvania. We spent Wednesday trying to finalize the kitchen layout. Luckily she changed her mind about the custom inset door cabinets and bought a set of cabinetry from Shenandoah Cabinets through Lowes. She worked all day with my Lowes guy. She changed back to painted cabinets, a slight off white, with Shaker door design. They are lovely. She added so many bells and whistles and stuff that her cabinet order came to about $10,000. My budget was $6,000 for the cabinetry and layout that I proposed. She was really nice about it and I paid $6,000 against the order and she paid the remainder. No questions asked.</p>

<p>More on the Spanish Bungalow project. </p>

<p>Buyer released all contingencies in our contract on Friday. And the Buyer submitted her increased deposit to escrow via cashier’s check. We are now past any backing out and her entire deposit is non-refundable. As her agent said… ‘we are married now’. There is a special amendment that immediately releases the deposit to me if Buyer cancels or does not perform for any reason. No signature required from Buyer (I insisted on that… a lot of things go south and then you cannot get the Buyer to sign anything (cancellation document, release of deposit document, etc) and you are just stuck stuck stuck in limbo</p>

<p>Buyer has made over 12 changes to original Scope of Work this week. I get to spend all my time documenting changes, determining cost of change and finalizing an Amendment to the contract after her review. It’s just a bunch of headache I am not used to managing. Also, I am driving my construction crew crazy because I have to make them stop work and go over the changes with them and then I put them on the spot to tell me ‘how long will it take you to do X?’. The whole pricing of these changes is just a crap shoot at this point.</p>

<p>The sales price is fluctuating so much because of these changes that we have determined that the additional dollars need to be tracked outside of escrow. She is getting a loan for 50% of the purchase price and banks are not happy when the Sales Price in the original contract is different when they go to draw loan documents at the end of escrow. We might have to start all over with the loan process. So, the listing and buying agents will keep track of my final documents and the running additional amount. Buyer will give the Listing Agent a payment outside of escrow and agent will review everything at the final walkthrough on her behalf (she will be back in Pennsylvania). Then he will give me the check outside of escrow.</p>

<p>Buyer hired some fancy ‘Color Specialist’ to help her select the new exterior colors for the stucco bungalow. The lady came and I got to spend one hour with them painting swatches on the outside of the house. Had to distract the crew to come out and paint swatches. I didn’t say a word, but the color was horrific - mustard yellow stuff. Luckily the Buyer vetoed the color and we had to start all over again. Meanwhile this ‘color specialist’ was telling the Buyer that we HAD to use Dunn Edward paint because it was the only company she trusted to come up with ‘true colors’. What the hey??? Of course the Dunn Edward paint costs about $10 more per gallon than my budget and I was just tired of the whole change order money thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if she pays some kind of discounted wholesale cost for the paint and then is selling it to us at the retail cost or something. I did explain to the color specialist that I used Behr paint and I get a 15% discount and it is significantly lower cost.</p>

<p>So, after color specialist left I told Buyer that I would go to Home Depot and bring some paint samples of things that I liked just to let her see more choices. Went to Home Depot at 8pm Friday night (how fun is that?) and got 6 more samples. Showed up early Saturday and had to pull the crew off to paint all the samples per a detailed diagram I gave them because I had to rush over to Project #2 to meet with owners all Saturday morning. So far I have now paid for construction crew to paint samples for 2 1/2 hrs.</p>

<p>Returned to Spanish Bungalow project at 1pm to find Buyer had brought some of her own new samples. Had to pull one crew off to paint those on another area of front of house (another 1/2 hr). She had picked peach/salmon color combination (yuck yuck yuck). It was immediately obvious that those colors looked like some Ooops paint from Tijuana. Luckily I didn’t have to say anything because the neighbor from across the street came over (and his house is a gorgeous restored Craftsman with a beautiful color combination) and just barfed all over the peach/salmon stuff. She trusted his opinion.</p>

<p>Now it’s 2pm and she informs me that she has invited all her friends over to help pick colors. Ten people arrive and it’s a group grope committee discussion about the paint colors. I stand there for another 2 hours. In the end they all decided that my color combination I brought from Home Depot was definitely the most ‘sophisticated’ and they talked Buyer into being more sophisticated rather than Terracotta/Spanish bright colors. On and on this went.</p>

<p>Just as we are wrapping up and her friends are all moved inside to give her opinions on all the changes she should make to the house, along comes ‘Color Specialist’ out of her car with a new set of color sheets for Buyer and different ways that the accent pieces on the house should be painted. Thank God the Buyer finally told her that we are going with ‘X’. But this dragged on for another 1/2 hour.</p>

<p>In the end I spent a total of 5 hours on this paint fiasco - the colors I would have painted the house myself if it was a flip ended up being the color she wanted, my crew had to waste about 3 man hours painting swatches and we are back to using my Behr paint at my cost.</p>

<p>I went into the garage for a break during all this and the plumber and drywaller guys said ‘You have the patience of a saint’. I guessed they noticed it was quite a lot of chaos going on out on the front sidewalk.</p>

<p>I don’t have any photos to post of Spanish Bungalow project because we have been finishing new gas lines, drain lines and water line plumbing under the house and some other stuff. Nothing really exciting to show.</p>

<p>I have decided that I probably should not post photos of Project #2 because I am not the owner of the home and it wouldn’t be appropriate. However, the paint colors are just fabulous, the interior is completely painted. So bright and gorgeous now. </p>

<p>Funny thing… the owner insisted we had to rent scaffolding for the painters for the 17’ high ceilings. Painter gives me a contact, get the scaffolding rented, the scaffolding guys erect a skyscraper in the stairway… and the painters refuse to get on the scaffolding. They hate the scaffolding and continue to just prop big extension ladders against the walls. The scaffolding just ended up being in the way of everything because they had to paint around it.</p>

<p>What a waste! But I can’t tell the owners because they are so worried about safety. We dismantled the scaffolding and we are saving it in the garage in case the tile guy needs it to tile 17’ up the fireplace surround. I bet he refuses to use it also :slight_smile: </p>

<p>There is a new HGTV variation on House Hunters where the buyers are “assisted” in their decision via crowd sourcing. A group of @ 15 people come along on the house visits to critique and complain. No thanks!!!</p>

<p>Wow! Really? Buying a home for use is such a personal thing, what has to do with 15 strangers?</p>