<p>I was hoping to get my choices down to 1 school so I could apply ED1.</p>
<p>Corbett- Thanks for the article!</p>
<p>Middlebury sounds like a good fit for you. I like the helmets.</p>
<p>Haha They are pretty fantastic helmets.</p>
<p>Who knows? After playing for Middlebury, you might end up in the NFL!!</p>
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<p>Middlebury fills up half of its incoming class with early decision. It will greatly improve your odds of going to Middlebury if you go that route, but then you will be committed if you are accepted. They’re both great schools, you can’t go wrong with either one.</p>
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Interesting (though probably atypical) story. The Ravens’ kicker, Steve Hauschka, graduated from Middlebury with a degree in neuroscience. </p>
<p>He played soccer (not football) in high school, initially played JV soccer at Midd, and then made the football team as a sophomore. After Midd, he still had a year of college eligibility, so he enrolled as a grad student at North Carolina State and played DI football there before being drafted by the NFL.</p>
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<p>Actually, Middlebury’s acceptance rate for ED students isn’t that much higher than for RD students. Last year, Midd had 927 ED applicants and accepted 252 (27%) of them. The year before, they had 1011 ED applicants and accepted 253 (25%) of them.</p>
<p>Last year at Colgate, 741 students applied ED and 378 (51%!) were accepted. The year before, 730 applied ED and 364 (50%) were accepted. It looks like there’s much more of an advantage to applying early to Colgate than there is to Midd. Middlebury also gets many more ED applications than Colgate, despite the fact that it’s a smaller school.</p>
<p>I can’t say if the following statistics are from this year or last year, but here is my source:</p>
<p>[College</a> Search - Middlebury College - Midd - Admission](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board)</p>
<p>Total percent applicants admitted: 17%
Number of early decision applications received: 927
Number admitted under early decision plan: 252</p>
<p>The math reveals that the acceptance rate for early decision applicants was 27%. If the total acceptance rate was 17% then the admittance rate from the regular decision pool was lower that 17%.</p>
<p>For Fall 2008, based on 2008-09 Common Data Sets for both schools:</p>
<p>ED acceptance rates:
27.7 % M (252 of 927)
51.0 % C (378 of 741)</p>
<p>Students accepted ED, as % of students enrolled:
43.8 % M (252 of 576)
51.2 % C (378 of 738)</p>
<p>RD acceptance rate (after subtracting ED out acceptances and applicants):
15.4 % M (1064 of 6896)
17.4 % C (1513 of 8675)</p>
<p>So both schools admit a relatively high percentage of students by ED, and both accept ED applicants at higher rates than RD applicants. However, both of these points are more pronounced at Colgate than at Middlebury. The high ED acceptance rate at Colgate is particularly striking; for 2008, the ED acceptance rate was almost three times higher than the corresponding RD rate. Colgate accepted slightly more than half of all ED applicants for 2008, and filled slightly more than half of its class that way.</p>
<p>So both schools give an advantage to ED applicants, but it’s probably fair to say that this advantage is particularly strong at Colgate.</p>
<p>I think you absolutely should play football. Most guys I know still talk about their sports experiences in college - 30 and 40 years later. Life goes by fast. Full of work and responsibility. Why try and rush through it? If you have a chance to play and see how far you can go (you never know till you try) then you need to do it. It’s not like you can go back at 30 and play. Football is such a unique team experience that only guys who play can understand.</p>
<p>Corbett – those Colgate statistics are kind of shocking. I knew about Middlebury’s statistics but I didn’t know about Colgate’s.</p>
<p>You have to decide if 4 years playing additional football at the varsity level or the club level is worth it. Or is the rest of your life as a doctor more important. </p>
<p>If you believe, having found w/ research, that you have an equal chance at medical school by attending Middlebury vs Colgate, and you can play football, by all means go to Middlebury.</p>
<p>If, however, you believe you have a better chance at med school coming from Colgate, apply there. </p>
<p>Med schools admissions is highly driven by MCATs and GPA. Keep this in mind.</p>
<p>Corbett- as you are probably aware, Midd has a practice of Feb admits, which (you may not know) are not counted (numbers, SATs, etc) in the CDS. The Febs are admitted out of the same applicant pool as the September admits, but its always the Sept admit rate out of the entire pool that’s publicly reported which is a tad misleading in my book and does not provide for a precise apples to apples comparison to other schools. </p>
<p>Here are the stats with Midd’s Febs included, not that this changes any of your conclusions:</p>
<p>ED acceptance rates:
32.5 % M (301 of 927)
51.0 % C (378 of 741)</p>
<p>Students accepted ED, as % of students enrolled:
46.2 % M (301 of 652)
51.2 % C (378 of 738)</p>
<p>RD acceptance rate (after subtracting ED out acceptances and applicants):
16.8 % M (1159 of 6898)
17.4 % C (1513 of 8675)</p>
<p>source for revised Midd data: <a href=“http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/E91F22A8-6911-42BF-83EF-49E63EB2559C/0/HistoricalAdmissionsthru09.pd[/url]”>http://www.middlebury.edu/NR/rdonlyres/E91F22A8-6911-42BF-83EF-49E63EB2559C/0/HistoricalAdmissionsthru09.pd</a> </p>
<p>So, as Corbett said, applying ED to Colgate clearly provides an advantage relatively speaking. For what its worth, total applications to both schools went down considerably this past season (Midd-6904 from 7825, Colgate-7814 from 9416), but interestingly from the Midd link above, Midd ED apps went up (did they remove a supplement essay?)</p>
<p>spbrown92- best of luck to you. These are 2 great schools with many similarities. While, like you, I could rationalize each choice, my advice as I’ve learned with my own kids is to ONLY GO ED IF YOU FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT A SPECIFIC SCHOOL, DAMN THE STRATEGY. So if you can’t resolve this choice more definitively before ED apps are due, wait until RD even if you feel you lose some strategic ED advantage.</p>
<p>Thank you for all the help everyone! I just came home from my first win this season, and I have to say there is no feeling like it! While I am still undecided, the game, as well as all of the help on the forum has helped greatly!</p>
<p>From what I hear, being pre-med at a D3 school is very managable. Since football in nescac only lasts for 2 months, it wont take away a huge chunk of your time. Therefore, I would not factor the “theres not enough time for pre-med and football” into your decision.</p>
<p>The choice should really come down to 1) Which school do you like better? If the only thing you like better about Middlebury is that you can play d3 football, then you should check out the other 10 NESCACs as well because you could play there too. That isnt something unique to Middlebury. However, if what you like about Midd is the unique VT setting or the strong foreign studies programs, then choose it. Otherwise, I consider you to at least look at the other Nescacs.</p>
<p>2) Where do you have a better shot at getting in? If you’re a legacy at Colgate, and Colgate is slightly easier to get into than Middlebury, then thats also a factor in your decision.</p>
<p>Apply RD to both, and see how you feel about this in the spring. Given how hard this decision seems to be for you, it’s probably best to give it time.</p>
<p>You sound like you have 3 options: go to Colgate and don’t play football, go to Middlebury and play football, or go to Middlebury and don’t play football. You’ve said a lot about the first two but nothing about the third. Where would going to Middlebury and not playing football fit in your preferences?</p>
<p>Hm excellent point. Well as stated before, injuries do happen, and I think I’d be fine at Middlebury without football too.</p>
<p>Colgate. Hands down. Middlebury is very liberal and I have heard has a bunch of very “un athletic” “pro marijuana” “typical Vermont” points of view. </p>
<p>You can always walk on the Colgate football team and see if you can make the team. But their solid academics and very, very strong placement for med school and graduate school, as you likely know, trumps anything that Middlebury offers you.</p>
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<p>Whoa. Did Ann Coulter tell you that at the Tea Bagger march last week?</p>