Football or Fraternity

<p>Just putting this out there…</p>

<p>Drew Brees was a brother at Sigma Chi while being on the football team at Purdue (Big Ten).</p>

<p>@tiff90
Read your own post again (Not what you were trying to get across, but what you actually wrote.) I thought at first you were saying D1 and D3 were equal. I had to think to myself, no she couldn’t be that dumb. I wasn’t the only one it looks like.</p>

<p>From the kids I know on the football team here, most are in a frat. Granted Cornell is D1 AA, however, the difference between 1A and 1AA isn’t in terms of time commitment/effort, rather it’s one of talent/athleticism from what I see. And certain frats are predominantly composed of football players, meaning events (formals, etc.) never coincide with practice/games. It doesn’t seem difficult at all.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone. Lot’s of helpful answers and good words of advice, keep em coming!!!</p>

<p>@Bigeastbeast</p>

<p>When did I ever say D3 and D1 were equal? I thought I made it pretty clear they were not equal. Maybe you should learn to read as well as you play football, but it seems like you use any excuse to talk up D1 football (hoorah, manly grunt) and talk down other sports at lesser schools. Too many people who play D1 sports get too much into themselves and have huge egos. To elaborate for you, I am not calling you narcassistic, which I would bet is how you interpreted the statement. I already stated D1 and D3 are not equal time commitments, so I really don’t understand how you thought I was saying they were equal. Unless you just get a high out of demeaning others, and bringing sex into the discussion. Get over yourself and stop acting like people are saying D1 sports aren’t a time commitment. I really get annoyed when people on here can’t read posts accurately and seemingly construct statements out of thin air as a means to get offended and belittle others. I always think it’s funny when people make their decision based on a sports program when they have little, if any, chances of going pro.</p>

<p>10 years from now no one is going to give you a job because you played for 1 year at a D1 school, which is what you seemed to imply was a possibility based on the whole it helps you get a job theory. It won’t. Even if you were good. Greek networking is superior.
People who go D1 miss out on a lot of the college experience of mingling with others and being. If you play D1, you’re entire college experience is based on that sport. You can’t schedule classes during certain times, you may not be able to major in what you want to, because if those classes conflict with practice, coaches make you choose between a major you want and playing. Coaches also think that sports take precedent over ALL other things. I have friends playing D1, and they have no free time in season, pull all nights constantly and can only go out after the season. It’s pretty extreme, especially if you want to remember more about college than football. ~ Tiff09</p>

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<p>Insecure much?</p>

<p>Talk about a disportional response.</p>

<p>All I said is that comparing a women’s D3 sport and D1 football (especially for a recent Top 25 team), is apple and oranges.</p>

<p>That’s all I said, so stop crying and throwing a hissy-fit.</p>

<p>Personally, I think playing a major sport at a major school has much better benefits. Sure, frats/sororities give you some networking, but playing football at a major school provides MILLIONS of fans, alumni, boosters, donors, ect. </p>

<p>As far as missing out on experiences playing D1 - well you wouldn’t know that, would you?</p>

<p>I played, and wouldn’t change anything. Sure it’s time consuming, but anything worthwhile requires time and committment. We don’t practice non-stop and forced to stay in our rooms during down time, and my coach certainly never forced us to take/not to take certain majors - that’s stupid. We were a big time program and had majors ranging from software engineering, CS, biology, and every Liberal Arts major. </p>

<p>I went out all the time, just not much during the season. Is that such a big deal? I mean afterall, I was getting my school paid for to play - so if getting a free education meant not hitting up the bars for a couple months, then what is the big deal? </p>

<p>As far as missing out on “mingling” with people - that’s completely stupid. I got to meet more people than your average college student. We did all types of community related events, school events and functions. </p>

<p>What does going pro have anything to do with it? I mean, if people should only play sports if they can go pro, then what you are playing for? I was playing for a scholarship, and a chance to play at a high level against other good athletes. It’s called be competitive - and trying to be the best at what you are doing.</p>

<p>Plus, it’s awesome getting to play for your school and on a national stage, ESPN, bowl games, and against other great programs. </p>

<p>Also, I didn’t say I only played 1 year. I said I got injured my sophmore year, but just one year would have been satisfying.</p>

<p>P.S. I never said D1 sports weren’t time consuming (however, some more than others), in fact I said I didn’t think he’d have time to be in a frat and play football. So stop putting words in my mouth.</p>

<p>How you ever developed your post out of me saying comparing women’s D3 sports with D1 Football is apples and oranges shows you aren’t playing with a full deck.</p>

<p>^^
Read my post again, and I truly think I made a distinction between D1 and D3 when I added the experiences my friends have at D1 schools. I really think it’s people on here not reading things as they are. </p>

<p>BEB-</p>

<p>No, I am not insecure. I get annoyed when people talk up D1 sports as if they are the best thing about college/life. Those people tend to not see the big picture, especially how much more there is to college.</p>

<p>Hands down you will have more experiences doing greek life. We won some games, upset some teams and it was cool, but def not what I want to remember about my college experience. The intellectual experience is great, as is the social aspects. I think acting like D1 sports is the the **** is much more insecure. Because there is so much more to do in life than play a game that is ultimately meaningless. I love playing soccer, and I had the whole soccer is my life phase- doing cup and ODP, going to ODP camp, training all the time, and one day I just realized I was missing out on having a lot of fun and missing a bunch of opportunities. I could have played at a mid to small sized D1 school, but the coaches were all about sports meaning more than school, and I don’t agree with that philosophy, it’s short sighted.
Personally, I think playing a major sport at a major school has much better benefits. Sure, frats/sororities give you some networking, but playing football at a major school provides MILLIONS of fans, alumni, boosters, donors, ect.</p>

<p>–If you’re good. That’s great for college, but in the real world going into a job interview, sharing that you played D1</p>

<p>As far as missing out on experiences playing D1 - well you wouldn’t know that, would you?
–I guess you missed the part in the past two posts that said I KNOW the commitment level and social life because I have multiple friends playing D1 and D2. I made that pretty clear, feel free to read it again. I know this is real high level writing, but I believe in you.</p>

<p>If you played freshman year, and were hurt soph year, doesn’t that mean you played one full season? Please correct me if I am wrong, but you admitted to playing only one year. Unless you meant something else by it. If you got injured soph year you probably got a medical redshirt. </p>

<p>“I never said D1 sports weren’t time consuming (however, some more than others), in fact I said I didn’t think he’d have time to be in a frat and play football. So stop putting words in my mouth.”</p>

<p>WHEN did I say you said D1 sports weren’t time consuming? I never did. You’re the one sitting here putting words and getting offended because I don’t think you should put D1 sports on a pedestal. Please point out when I said you did not say D1 sports were time consuming. I am tired of people on here making
stuff so they can get offended and then get snarky.</p>

<p>“What does going pro have anything to do with it? I mean, if people should only play sports if they can go pro, then what you are playing for? I was playing for a scholarship, and a chance to play at a high level against other good athletes. It’s called be competitive - and trying to be the best at what you are doing.”</p>

<p>It has to do with the fact that there are no tangible goals within reach of most athletes. People here act like they are going pro, and they’re not. Sure, our QB got signed to the Steelers, but that is an abnormality. It has to do with saying what is the point of all that commitment if you get nothing out of it? I play because it’s fun, because I love it, and based on what coaches want at a D1 level, few people still enjoy the game. And this is based on the experiences of friends, multiple friends, not just a personal experience. </p>

<p>“went out all the time, just not much during the season. Is that such a big deal? I mean afterall, I was getting my school paid for to play - so if getting a free education meant not hitting up the bars for a couple months, then what is the big deal?”</p>

<p>The OP is walking on. Meaning no scholarship. The school’s not giving him anything. Maybe it will be a bigger deal to not be able to be social when you’re not getting anything from the school. For me, I love going out. It shapes my experiences. I don’t like getting tied down. I love being with my friends and not having to worry about catching up academically (but IDK how hard or easy WVU is for you) or whatnot. I like going out 3-5 days a week. Myf riends at D1 schools can’t go out because they have no time.</p>

<p>You’re tone to me is D1 sports are everything, better than anything else, and that people should sacrifice every other opportunity for them. D1 sports are superior to all else. It’s somewhat delusional. There was no need to say anything about sex. Female sports are just as much of a commitment as holier than though male sports. Maybe if you weren’t that stereotypical sports are everything jock, I wouldn’t be annoyed. I love playing, but I realize it really is meaningless and has nothing to do with what I want in life. It’s worth playing, but it’s not worth closing other opportunities for growth.</p>

<p>You got all that information by me saying that comparing D3 girls soccer and D1 football is apples and oranges?</p>

<p>Sounds like you got shot down by a few football players and have a grudge.</p>

<p>I certainly never said anything about going pro, so I’m not sure what you are talking about. I liked playing at a high level against top competition, and getting a chance to compete for a national title. If your D3 programs is what you like, great - I careless.</p>

<p>If you go back and see what I read, I said I got injured my sophmore year, but even playing just 1 season would have been satisfying enough, talking about the experience and chance to play at a high level. I continued to play on the team, just my spot was essentially given to someone else. As if it was any of your business.</p>

<p>BTW, football, especially D1 football is important, because football pays for EVERYTHING. If it wasn’t for football, schools couldn’t afford their other sports. </p>

<p>BTW, just because you have friends that play D1 sports (besides, we are talking about football, not soccer), doesn’t really qualify you about much of anything.</p>

<p>P.S. No, I don’t bring up playing football in a job interview, just as I wouldn’t bring up being in a frat either.</p>

<p>Hahahahaha football players are complete d bags at my school. Most girls have no interest in dating guys with huge egos, believe it or not. No need to get snarky and pretend like football players are holier than though by saying I got turned down by football players. Dude, Man, Bro w/e you call yourself, football players aren’t that cool. Sorry. Sure, some are cool, but a lot of them have their head up their ass, and based on your post you seem like one of those guys who, when introducing yourself to a peer, mentions you play football, you probably wear football clothes just about everyday and maybe you tear the sleeves off of your shirts. At least that is what the guys at my school do. And they aren’t getting paid to play.</p>

<p>You know football doesn’t pay for everything, that is just what football players and coaches want you to think. Federal grants, private academic based donors pay for a lot. Most buildings are paid for by non football players. How many buildings at your school are named after football players or football based donors? Not many at Pitt, or schools around PGH. Pitt does not get the majority of its money from football. </p>

<p>Football is just a game. </p>

<p>BTW, just because you have friends that play D1 sports (besides, we are talking about football, not soccer), doesn’t really qualify you about much of anything.
It does. I know what it’s like. I did the whole recruitment thing. I know what level of commitment a D1 sport is. I played for D1 coaches, I did trips in HS, I have many friends who play at D1 schools, I know what the commitment is. Stop acting like you only get it if you do it now. Under that assumption, you have no room to talk about what greek life is. Under that assumption, the president shouldn’t command the military unless he was part of it. That is not how the world works. GET. OVER. YOURSELF.</p>

<p>Soccer is just as much a time commitment as football, as much as you want to deny that fact. Football is not a much bigger commitment than other D1 sports. Seriously, get over the macho man football is life thing. It’s just immature and close minded. So you are not qualified to talk about greek life, or academics…</p>

<p>Once again, you admit that you played one full season. I don’t know what you’re trying to debate. I think you are just trying to argue for the sake of it. </p>

<p>Seriously, waste of my time talking to someone who hasn’t really experienced college and thinks that sports are everything. They don’t mean anything (end of conversation).</p>

<p>You seem like you have issues.</p>

<p>Go back and read my original post, I said I got hurt my sophmore year, but even one season was enough. </p>

<p>That meant if I even had just played one season, it would have been worth it - not sure what you are making a bid deal out of it. I wasn’t aware I needed to post my entire lifes story for you. I played 4 out of the 5 years I was in school.</p>

<p>Secondly, I didn’t mean that football pays for the whole school - but it does support the athletic programs. Maybe not at D3 schools, because no one really pays much attention and they don’t have television contracts. But at D1 schools, that’s how colleges make bank. Sell out stadiums, television contracts, bowl games, ect. I mean how profit do you really think girls soccer makes? Those sports are a cost center, and the football programs (and basketball to a lesser extent) bring in revenue that is then divided up.</p>

<p>You totally flew off the handle because I said that you were comparing apples and oranges, talk about full of yourself.</p>

<p>@ first poster</p>

<p>Play D1 football. This is something you’ve worked for your whole life, somethign onlly a few can do. Do it.</p>

<p>^^^completely agree with mamooie312. Play D1 football. If you decide that it is not for you after your first year, then you can quit and then join a fraternity your sophomore year (plenty of people join fraternities after their freshman year). If you don’t play football and choose the fraternity 1st it is not like you have the option to switch to football your second year (if you realize later that a fraternity is not what you are looking for).</p>