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<p>Usually only for the first few jobs. After that, it’s all about previous experience.</p>
<p>LOL at students who think they have something clever to say, but don’t. (There’s a reason “sophomoric” is such a descriptive adjective.)</p>
<p>Where I live, the only colleges that give someone bragging rights are: Stanford, Berk, UCLA, and USC. Throw in HYP and M and that’s about it. Anyway, bragging isn’t my style. </p>
<p>Please note that this topic was posted on the WashU forum not some general forum. Shouldn’t Washu parents and students feel free to stick up for the college while in the WashU forum? I sure notice that that is the case on every other specific college forum (seriously, don’t post anything negative on the Brown site. Pro-Brown retaliation is swift and bruising.) </p>
<p>The issue to me is not whether Washu “deserves” the ranking assigned by Forbes — it’s that none of the ranking positions are “deserved” if the methodology used isn’t credible and isn’t supported by factual documentation.</p>
<p>The Forbes article has been posted in numerous forums and has been soundly panned for using ratemyprofessor and Who’s Who as sources of information for ranking purposes. These threads have died quickly due to lack of support or maybe just lack of interest.</p>
<p>Yes, and I’m sure you’re a very qualified person to disagree with their methods.</p>
<p>And don’t give me that “sophomoric” crap. I’m sure most students on this forum (including myself) are much more intelligent than you are, and it just exposes your insecurity when you have to pull the adult card.</p>
<p>Sophomoric is as sophomoric does. Another good example.</p>
<p>And tell me how throwing out unfounded insults isn’t?</p>
<p>What’s with all of this parent-hating lately?</p>
<p>I, for one, know that I’ve benefited from the advice parents constantly give on these boards.</p>
<p>FYI, the CCAP rankings of national universities as published by Forbes.com is inaccurate as to CCAP’s actual ranking of SMU. Forbes.com lists SMU as 13 when, in fact, it’s ranked by CCAP as 43. Take a look at CCAP’s own list at the bottom of its own home page:The Center for College Affordability and Productivity. As you will see, the top 20 schools now begin with Harvard and end with Brandeis. BTW, I confirmed the accuracy of the CCAP-published list by email with CCAP.</p>
<p>Oh, I agree. Some parents on here are great. </p>
<p>Especially the ones who have enough self-confidence and security to not pretend that they’re actually superior to the kids who post here.</p>
<p>KofB: Please reread your post #40. I took that as kind of snide and insulting and I suppose I should have ignored it rather than responding in kind. Tell you what, from now on we can just ignore each other.</p>
<p>kindofblue… you gotta chill…be cool like WashU people ;)</p>
<p>Wash #31 seems to be more realistic than #12, considering its second rate graduate school.</p>
<p>Visitor1. Time for you to stop bashing WashU. Remember WashU’s USNWR rank of #12 is a ranking of the undergrad program. WashU is extremely committed to its undergrads. No TA’s teaching classes, accessible professors, strong support system, small class sizes, flexibility within schools and majors for young undecided students…etc. Its a great place to be an undergraduate. The fact that its’ graduate law or business school isn’t a top school doesn’t impact an undergraduate’s experience or the quality of the undergraduate education.</p>
<p>Visitor1 seems like a case of sour grapes! What’s the story?</p>
<p>Actually, WashU’s law school ranks #19 in the nation. I wouldn’t call that second rate. Do “second rate” schools have the middle 50% of LSAT scores in the 163-167 range? I doubt it. </p>
<p>[Top</a> 2008 Law School Rankings](<a href=“http://top-law-schools.com/rankings.html]Top”>Law School Rankings)</p>
<p>are we also kind of forgetting their medical school? </p>
<p>Wash U provides one of THE best enviornment for an undergrad trying to study med and in combo with an excellent medical education.</p>
<p>“No TA’s teaching classes, accessible professors, strong support system, small class sizes, flexibility within schools and majors for young undecided students…etc.”</p>
<p>What is the problem with TAs? Top schools have good professors (researchers) and not only good teachers.</p>
<p>" …The fact that its’ graduate law or business school isn’t a top school doesn’t impact an undergraduate’s experience or the quality of the undergraduate education."</p>
<p>Neither engineering nor math, physics, etc </p>
<p>"Actually, WashU’s law school ranks #19 in the nation. I wouldn’t call that second rate. Do “second rate” schools have the middle 50% of LSAT scores in the 163-167 range? I doubt it. "</p>
<p>You only need 3.2 to get in, far from 3.9 from HYS+Columbia</p>
<p>WashU’s #12 ranking in USNWR is supported by the Center for Measuring University Performance study, which ranks research universities on nine different measures. </p>
<p><a href=“http://mup.asu.edu/research2007.pdf[/url]”>http://mup.asu.edu/research2007.pdf</a></p>
<p>WU is #15 on the list for public universities and privates combined and #8 on the list for privates only. Supported by data, not opinion. </p>
<p>In another thread recently, longtime poster and moderator Alexandre described WashU and also Dartmouth as “quasi-LAC research universities” and that’s a good description. No one goes around dumping on Dartmouth because it’s graduate programs in math, chemistry, biology, physics, psychology are much lower ranked than HYP and major public universities. In fact several of WashU’s grad programs — bio, psychology, chemistry, and math — are ranked higher than Dartmouth’s. In engineering, WashU ranks higher than Brown or Dartmouth. And WashU’s chemistry grad program is tied in the ranking with Duke’s. </p>
<p>WashU’s medical school is in the top 10, it’s law school is in the top 20 and it’s business school is in the top 25 of programs in the country. Using grad and professional schools as the basis for judgment alone, it’s much easier in my opinion to justify WashU’s #12 ranking in USNWR than it is to justify Dartmouth at #11.</p>
<p>Jazzymom puts complete faith in the USNWR rankings yet expresses unbridled hostility towards Forbes rankings. She claims it isn’t because Forbes ranks Wash U. lower, but because their use of survey data makes their methodology “worthless”. It’s ironic that the social science professors at Wash U., routinely use survey results in their research. I doubt that she would contend that Wash U.'s social science programs are “worthless”. Visitor 1 don’t expect to hear anything other than carefully selected “facts” which support an unshakeable agenda of promoting Wash. U.</p>
<p>Yale Law and Harvard Law have four times more students from Dartmouth and Brown than from WashU.</p>
<p>Uh, we are on the WashU forum, fellas.</p>