in California, judges up for reelection appear on the ballot only if an individual runs against the judge. If the judge is unopposed, the judge is automatically reelected, without appearing on the ballot.
It is for practical reasons; in LA, if every judge up for reelection appeared on the ballot there would be over 130 individual unopposed races on the ballot at any given time. (There are over 400 Superior Court judges in LA County Superior Court).
I never said that privilege and racial inequality are myths. And the totality of my postings here on CC supports that. I absolutely see, understand and agree that Brock’s sentencing was likely lighter because he was a white, “clean-cut” male, and if he had been a black male from a lower SES, he’d have a different sentence. I don’t dispute that at all.
I do dispute that some people get to suddenly and magically redefine the word thug, a word which always meant low-life criminal of any race and was never synonymous with the n-word.
"I think Rasmussen’s statement and then her follow up letter are terrible.
Her band being barred from performing is a little too much though."
Free market in action.
Is it free market in action or did somebody not like what the 20 year old said and barred her from playing?
Fact is, some people are going to assume racial intent when you use the word “thug”. I guess if you only ever use it for people known to be white that’s not an issue. But if you use it for an unknown person, or for a person of color, people may interpret it as racist. Nobody owns the dictionary, but if a word is prone to misinterpretation or offending people, and I’m aware of that, I’ll try to use another word.
There are limits and some convictions can be used to refuse to hire someone. But not a blanket allowance that any conviction can be the basis for not hiring. I am not sure if it became law, but there has been some discussion of not allowing questions on arrests to be asked until after the person is interviewed and a hiring decision is to be made. This would allowed those with a past conviction to at least have a chance. However, there are certainly jobs (teaching for a convicted child molester or even someone found quilty of harming kids in other ways).
From the NY statute
“Is it free market in action or did somebody not like what the 20 year old said and barred her from playing?”
That’s the same thing, dstark. The “somebody” was presumably a club owner / manager. They are within their rights. Having a particular point of view on a topic is not a protected class.
When I first read what happened to Rasmussen, what I wrote was the question in my mind.
I don’t think what I asked is the same thing.
I am not saying the club owner was not within his rights.
I don’t know the answer to my question.
It is EXACTLY the same thing, stark. Someone chose not to associate with someone else because they don’t like an opinion the second person expressed on a current topic. If you say you are a huge Trump supporter and I don’t like that, I have every right to dis-invite you to my birthday party. If you say your business supports legislation that I don’t agree with, I can stop visiting your store. The government isn’t involved here; these are private decisions. This is precisely and exactly the free market in action.
I don’t know.
I’m Jewish.
If somebody doesn’t want to sell his house to me because I am Jewish, how is that a free market to me?
I’m starting to feel sorry for Brock’s family, Persky, and Rasmussen. I know they brought it on themselves, but what they brought on was a tidal wave of a backlash, with the full weight of the press focused on them. Persky must be regretting his weak sentence and the words that accompanied it.
“If somebody doesn’t want to sell his house to me because I am Jewish, how is that a free market to me?”
Please don’t make this difficult.
There are federal laws prohibiting discrimination when it comes to housing.
And within that, being of a certain religion is of a protected class.
There are no federal laws prohibiting discrimination when it comes to what music club owners need to offer.
And, even if there were, having a particular opinion on a topic is not a protected class.
Rasmussen is perfectly free to hold her opinion on the Turner case. As with all things, the right to speak one’s mind also comes with consequences in the court of public opinion. Either the club owner disagrees with Rasmussen and hence doesn’t want to offer her a spot in his club, or he believes that enough patrons will boycott him as a result and hence doesn’t want to offer her a spot in his club. He has every right to do that. Access to a spot playing music in a club is not considered a “right” in the way that access to housing is.
In Downstate NY a “thug” still refers to violent people. They could be gang members (who come in all sizes, races, and genders), Family wannabes without an affiliation, or just your run-of-the-mill criminal. It’s your activities, not your race, that makes you a thug. I suspect some Union members who lived in Manhattan during your dad’s time weren’t any better than the ones who were living in Chicago.
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Downstate NY a “thug” still refers to violent people.
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Yes…the word “thug” seems to be associated with violence, gangs, mafia/organized crime, bullying behavior, etc. When I picture mafia/organized crime groups, I picture thug/enforcers.
I’m thinking the owner of the music venue was in a lose-lose situation-- the risk being either that the place would be boycotted or trashed.
Apparently it was 4 shows that were part of an upcoming music festival in Brooklyn. Each independent venue was reportedly besieged with calls from New Yorkers asking that they cancel the band’s appearance. This quote is from a musician who supported the cancellations:
Say, maybe Bad English could play a bunch of benefits for rape survivors.
I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned (very tangentially), but isn’t U.S. swimming stained with a recent history of sexual misconduct by some swim coaches? Now, I had the completely bizarre question come to mind: Maybe Turner had been sexually assulted in his lifetime? I’m not charging any such thing. But it did cross my mind.
Re: #524
The part that you quoted refers to arrest or criminal accusations, not convictions.
For prior convictions, employers in New York have to follow this:
Mike Golic, co-host of Mike and Mike on ESPN, a former professional football player and father of a female college swimmer, ripped the judge about the Brock case.
Ashleigh Banfield read the most of the victim’s letter on CNN.
Here is Mike Golic…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-golic-brock-turner_us_5756d7aae4b0b60682dee524?yptr=yahoo