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<p>Not to mention all of the ads for Viagra, Cialis, and things like that.</p>
Fremont Sex-Ed Textbook With Topics On Bondage ... Along With Explicit Diagrams Has Parents Riled Up
<p>Without reading the textbook itself I cannot say how appropriate it may be as presented in the book. I am no prude, but a course like that shouldn’t get into the details, there is no reason to get into that kind of detail. I appreciate what some people have written, that kids may get curious (especially now with all the hype of 50 shades of gray, especially with the movie coming out), that some may try it and there are risks to this kind of sex (it is why S/M groups and authors spend a lot of time on safety, about risks and so forth)…No, I don’t think this is going to encourage kids to go out and try it, I think kids at that age if they are getting close to having sex, barely can grasp regular old sex to be honest, I think they may be titilated by the ideas, giggle at it, but won’t run out and try it I suspect. The other thing is if kids do experiment with it, I suspect it won’t be particularly risky stuff either. </p>
<p>That said, though, there is a point to be made that kids are being made aware of what is out there, the religious right and others have been trying to stem the tide with denial, like the claim that sex ed causes kids to have sex (every study not done by biased religious groups shows that comparing kids who had comprehensive sex ed versus kids taught “abstinence only”, or the kids brought up with the purity pledges and so forth, that the kids with abstinence only delayed their first encounter, but roughly a year and a half or so, but by that time the rate of teen sex was pretty much equal between the two groups…and the abstinence only kids routinely were having sex without birth control or taking the risk of STD’s into concern. If the book mentioned BD/SM play or sex toys and briefly described them as alternative kinds of sex, I think there could be value to it to a 14 year old, or mentioned other variations on sex, straight, gay, poly, whatever, simply to give them information, you can be informative without being graphic, and I think simply talking about it in an appropriate fashion is not a bad idea. As others have pointed out, this is a different generation, and back when I had sex ed, when Led Zeppelin was still together and someone thought digital watches were a neat thing, people said the same thing about talking about issues like being gay or believe it or not, transgender (not that they used that term). I think anything that demystifies sex is good, and personally, when it came to S/M and such, I would probably tell them that if they ever decided when they were older to try it, to make sure and do research on it, about how to do it safely, and leave it at that. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, we have a weird situation out there, where there is a ton of information about sex out there, being thrown around all over the place, kids have access to porn (which is a disaster area, in more ways than one), and there isn’t a good counterbalance to it. In my/our generation there was plenty of bad information on sex, primarily because a lot of it was coming via other people and myth and such, but today while there is wonderful information on sex, kids are also bombarded by conflicting messages about sex, we have popular culture that has sexualized so much, the net with all its things, then we have the reactionary forces trying to put the genie back in the bottle who promote a message that is not only way out of whack with the realities of the world (the whole no sex before marriage, little hint, 90% of people are not virgins when they wed), or where sex is still stigmatized as being for procreation, where doing it for pleasure or whatever is wrong, or that certain forms of sex are wrong, and it is a mess, and it is creating all kinds of conflicts. I don’t know what is worse, the message that porn gives out that sex is this cheap thing done by plastic people with unreal physiques, or the other end of things, the uber religious, whose attitudes about sex haven’t changed since the 16th century, but both are bad news, and if sex ed can tread a middle ground, then it is needed as maybe an island of sanity in the middle of a bad acid trip of data overload. I also want to add that I have seen few posts if any in this thread I would characterize as over the top, most posters took the time to think through and their ideas are legitimate, I didn’t read anything where I said “WTH”, like someone spouting religious jargon or whatnot. I would hope that the biggest thing they teach in these courses is that sex is a very powerful thing, it is very tempting, but that it also has powerful emotions and consequences and the first rule of it has to be respect for your partner and respect for yourselves, a lot flows from that IMO:)</p>
<p>Since many more males have fetishes than females, I think the inclusion of BDSM fetishes in a course for young high school students reinforces the thinking that females should service males.
Better the course place more emphasis on how to treat each other with respect, than on how to get off if you have a sexual fetish.</p>
<p>When did orgasms and vibrators become “kink”? It seems to me that young women having orgasms with vibrators would be a great way to limit teen pregnancy and STDs. I know we live in a society that labeled Amanda Knox a deviant sex fiend murderer because she had a vibrator in her underwear drawer, but come on!</p>
<p>Well, I don’t think most sexually active teenage girls are likely to replace teenage boys with vibrators anytime soon… The BDSM stuff is where the kink entered the discussion. </p>
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<p>Uh no… women are just less open about them because it is less socially acceptable than it is for men. </p>
<p>I do think that sex ed should include a discussion of what BDSM is (and isn’t), particularly with 50 Shades coming out soon. Like it or not, kids know a lot more (and experiment a lot more) than their parents would like to believe, and it’s much better to give them accurate information that focuses on being safe than letting them learn everything from the internet.</p>
<p>If you read Kinsey, many more men have fetishes.
But Im happy to look at studies that prove me wrong.</p>
<p>Do middle-schoolers have fetishes? Maybe, they do.</p>
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<p>Kinsey is outdated, there is a lot of recent research on women’s sexuality that show that ideas of female sexual response have often been wrong. Women do @emeralkitty-</p>
<p>Kinsey is outdated, there is a lot of recent research on women’s sexuality that show that ideas of female sexual response have often been wrong.Among other thing, women do have fetishes, and it isn’t as small a number as reported (like a lot of things about women’s sexuality, it isn’t as obvious as with men, it works differently).</p>
<p>The other thing is BD/SM is a very, very large bunch of things put under one label, and only some of it can be classified as a fetish. There are people turned on by the images of it, the clothing and other regalia, but there is a large part that is very complex that is not fetishes, it isn’t about an object or an image, there are all kinds of things involved that have little or nothing to do with fetishes. I think there are more misconceptions about what it is or isn’t, I still see those who claim it is basically justified abuse, how it objectifies women as doormats to men (ironic in that there are a lot of submissive men out there, but no one ever mentions them, the assumption it is all men dominating women), all kinds of things…so maybe a discussion of it in an appropriate way isn’t such a bad thing, as long as it is fact based and not trying to either dissuade or encourage it. </p>
<p>I just hope they include more material about homosexual sex. Not ever kid desires to stick their penis a vagina or vice versa yet that is all they learn about. And it is discriminatory and wrong.</p>
<p>I hope they also are teaching kids they DON’T have to have sex.
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<p>Parents, don’t be naive. Let’s be honest. If you’re 14 year old has internet and a social life, they probably know all about it anyway. Might as well discuss it in an informative manner where you have adults controlling the conversation rather than having teens spread misinformation. Just my $0.02.</p>
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<p>If you look at teen pregnancy rates, there is a strong correlation between lack of sex ed, and high rates. When you don’t teach teens things, they spread myths amongst each other thinking they can use cheats to get around certain things when in reality, they cannot. Education is key.</p>
<h1>70 “All that is desirable will be mandatory, all that is undesirable will be prohibited.”</h1>
<p>Musicornt, the Kinsey Institute has ongoing research studies.
How is that outdated?</p>
<p>Musicornt, the Kinsey Institute has ongoing research studies.
I don’t think recently published studies are outdated.</p>