<p>I am SO excited now. SOooooooooo exccited!!!  :)
 :) thanks for that extremely DETAILED course work description!! :):)</p>
 thanks for that extremely DETAILED course work description!! :):)</p>
<p>hi,
sorry for the waitâŠ
well, okayâŠi am not sure about what stern is likeâŠbut, i can say that since Stern is a total business school, then itâd make sense for someone to hire a stern graduate than a CAS grad. even if they both major in econ.
i dont take econ, so itâs a bad Q to ask me. so sorry about thatâŠhowever, stern is just more orientedâŠso itâll win, yes.
they are very strict at stern and very very very into business. i walked into the stern builiding once or twice and it was freaky. ppl wear suits, so professional, the revolving doors are so hecticâŠitâs a real business world. so someone who comes from that environment as an econ major is probably more likely to get a job at some business firm b/c theyâre better prepared. CAS is not bad for econ, itâs just that in stern you get the business side of it.
it depends, what do you want to do? if you want the theoratical side of it, if you want to be a prof or just want to see econ in the abstract, than CAS is better. Stern is if you wanna get plenty of money for knowing all about numbers and you are practical and technical, forget theories and philosophy, you only talk businessâŠthatâs the difference i suppose.</p>
<p>i know one guy who drives a car, yeah, but like
y17k said: itâs so damn crowded in the cityâŠ!!! the parking, i dont know the exact rates, but yeah, the city is anything but cheap! youâll feel like youâre paying double for everything, unless you lived there for a while and dont feel a difference.
itâs not a place to cruise around, if thatâs your planâŠyouâll get into traffic jams and its just hectic.
walking around the city, taking a bus is niceâŠbut driving may be a problem.
getting a taxi lift is nice, itâs full of them, but driving yourself may be annoying.</p>
<p>hey!
so where are you transferring, i missed it�
whyâŠNYU has a nice name, come onâŠlol.</p>
<p>personally, no, i dont know anyâŠ
i think its a bit rare for freshmen to be off that soonâŠis that even possible?
iâm not sure. but why would you do so anyway? you wont get to meet your incoming class folksâŠand youâll miss out on the freshman stuff.
if you wanna go there spring semester, i guess you can, but the application process needs time, not sure how longâit may be different for diff. country.
but many folks wanna go to florence b/c its beautiful: from the way it was described by a junior or a senior student, itâs amazingâŠb/c its very set  up. we got an NYU villa there. itâs very pretty, big, magnificent. you gotta learn some italian, but i heard its not that difficult b/c the profs understand that you just wanna enjoy the place and dont wanna overwhelm you.
but yeah, many students wanna go there, so itâs a big application pool, so i dont how big are the chances of a freshman getting an approval versus a last chance senior, know what i mean?
P.Sâi heard Prague, also very beautiful, is extremely cheapâŠi was adviced to hurry up and go there b/c they switch to the euro and things will be more expensiveâŠbut a dollar there is likeâŠa lot!!! one girl bought like a month supply of food for a meager amount of bucksâŠso, itâs nice and cheap. unless you got a lot of money, you also gotta be pretty realistic about the other world youâre going to.
i hear London is mad expensive, hard to enjoy your stay to the max cos you gotta spend so much money, so if you dont have $$ its hard to go out and just chill, cos you wanna go shopping, movies, yada yadaâŠ
so, choose wiselyâŠ
but florence, yeah, probably the most set up, comfy place for NYU abroad, cos of the villa.</p>
<p>I donât know if this question is too personal, but how do you plan on paying for NYU after you graduate? I just received my financial aid package yesterday, and by the time I get out of there, Iâll be about $128,000 in debt. Do you think itâs worth it? Iâm planning on majoring in journalism and not going to graduate school, so I wanted a good UG school. Iâm just really, really, really worried about the money. I mean, Iâm only 17. I canât grasp what âdebtâ is.</p>
<p>But itâs NYU. And it would kill me if I couldnât go there. Ahhh. This is so hard!</p>
<p>thanks for all the helpful information, breath.</p>
<p>i really wanna go to nyu but i donât know how iâm gonna afford it. i get $15000 scholarship. but other than that itâs all loans. is there anyway to get more financial aids which are not loans? and also, could you explain more about HEOP please? i live in ny so i think im qualified for that. </p>
<p>thanks a lot :)</p>
<p>how does cstep work? how much financial aid will i be given? i got my acceptance into steinhardt through cstep but it didnt include info on aidâŠ</p>
<p>hey breath, thanks for all the valuable information you have been providing.</p>
<p>I just got accepted into the heop program to the college of arts and sciences today and i was wondering how the summer school program is like. </p>
<p>1) How many days a week does it meet and from what times?
2) Is there homework? If so, was the homework hard and time consuming?
3) Were there any tests to study for or was any of the content challenging?</p>
<p>also, overall what did you think of the heop summer school program? Was it a chore or did you really enjoy the classes and got a better feel for the school?</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
<p>anyone: what is HEOP?</p>
<p>i know, i was 17 too and i took out my first loan and didnt get what happened or what that meantâŠ
yep, debt is the wayâŠ
and youâll have to pay it off otherwise youâll go to jailâŠ!!
okay, seriously now. my fin. aid situation may be a bit different from yours.
i am kindaâŠwell, totally broke and single parented. so on my FAFSA application my family contribution is expected to be: 0
but even if it werenât thatâŠiâd have to take out loans, and i still have to take out loans, but not as much as you do i think.
yes, i took out perkins, stafford, and PLUSâmy mom took it out but not so much, like for a grand something, but iâm sort of paying it off now. i have a job, doesnt pay much, but every month i cover the $50 bill of that loan return. unless sheâll pay it off in full, thatâs just the way itâs gonna be.
unless you got a full scholarship, pretty much everyone at NYU is in debt, huge debt. after i graduate iâll have to return all the money, theyâll probably be in a form of small payments/whatever small isâŠso i suppose that when i graduate from nyu iâll have a more decent job, cos iâll have an nyu diplomaâwhich has some weight, and pay in small portions. i mean, thatâs just LIFE!
education is worth it though. i am troubled to see ppl go to some other college, a cheaper college b/c of it. you know, in the end, itâs worth having a degree from NYU, why? cos itâs freaking NYU. unless you can go to Harvard, or some fancy school like that, dont trade NYU for a cheaper one just cos itâs cheaper. i dont know how great our journalism program is, but i suspect that majoring in journalism and going to NYU, in the greatest city where all the important stuff is happening, isâŠworth it!! imagine you trade NYU for some little school in East Cupcake Village, why would anyone want a journalist from there? but NYUâNew York City, New York lifeâŠthat says a lot, for a journalist.</p>
<p>earn good grades, get scholarships, i know youâll be in debt, so will I. but i think that if itâs for a good education, itâs totally worth it.</p>
<p>hi,
dont you have any Grants on your fin. aid paper? i had some grant, the CAS scholarship for 7,000, the NY TAP, cos i live here, and the rest were loans.</p>
<p>obviously, there are scholarships. i mean, if you get good grades then itâs easier to get extra money, thereâs plenty of money out there, itâs just that not a lot of ppl go for themâŠthey dont wanna write the essays, etcâŠbut itâs worth it. and if you live in ny, dont you have TAP? unless youâre super rich.</p>
<p>HEOP: Higher Education Opportunity Program for the NY state residents
Well, if you have already gotten into NYU, then i dont think that youâll be able to get into heop. b/c you get into NYU through HEOPâŠnot just join.
but basically, itâs supportive program for those who are academically and financially disadvantaged. It brings down the curve of NYUâs admissionsâŠlike my SAT and h.s GPA were not that great, but because iâve done so many things in my h.s and had a difficult program and,especially, b/c i was broke as hell and still am, i got in.
heop thinks that if you are broke, like me, then it doesnt mean that you cant go to a good school. you know how many ppl who are broke deny themselves of a good education right? so Heop supports you by helping you get into the school, if the school has a HEOP program. NYU does. plus, it helps you by giving you a stipend, $850 per semester, which saves you from out of pocket expenses on your books/transportation, plus the program also covers your dorm, if you dorm, for up to $ 10, 000.
itâs a sweet scholarship. there are mostly minorities there because those are the ones who are usually finincially disadvantaged, as you may know. but it doesnt matter, itâs not like for blacks or hispanics, you can be whatever, just as long as you arent rich i guess.
thereâs also C-step, itâs the same program basically, just you have to major in something specific i think and you dont have to be all poor. one girl in C-step was mad rich, her father owned the Jizzy Jazz chainâŠi dont know how she got C-step supportâŠthey have their own limits.</p>
<p>c-step, jee-dont ask me what it stands forâŠbut
itâs an opportunity program. youâll be given $250 per semester, a check and you can do whatever you want with itâŠpreferably buy your books. heop would give you more, $ 850, but youâd have to be poorer. 
youâll mix with the heop students when youâll take the workshops and summer classes that are coming upâŠyou know about those? thereâs a summer program you gotta attend to, you take like  classes, but depends on what school youâre in.
then during your freshman year, youâll have to take workshops, theyâre a pain, but whateverâŠitâs all done by sophmore year.
i am not sure how much money you get for dormingâŠiâm in Heop so i know that for us the program covers up to 10 grand for a dorm,but maybe with C-step, cos âyouâre not as broke as usâ theyâll cover lessâŠbut thereâs financial help which is good even if small.</p>
<p>How strong is the economics department at NYU?</p>
<p>do u make a lot of friends during the summer classes for heop/cstep? how are they? are you graded? im going to them this summer</p>
<p>hi,
ahh the summerâŠ
A)i had to take 1) prose writing, 2) quantitative reasoning (math class, but if youâre advanced you might have to take calculus or some other math class), and 3) MAPâMorse Academic PlanâŠthe class mimics the Conversations of the West requirement that youâll have to take in your regular academic year. Itâs basically like AP english in h.sâŠwell, maybe a bit harder, i dont know. itâs like literature, say Antigone, you analyze itâŠextract socio-philosophical issues from it, that sort of thing. itâs the most interesting class if you ask me.
the classes meet, M-Thursday, so you have fridays off. i think the Prose class meets for 3 days, like the regular prose youâll take in the fall. itâs 1 hour 15 minutes except for MathâŠwhich goes on for 2 hr 30 minutes, a double period class, unfortunately. I belive my classes started at like 9.30 and went on until almost 5âŠb/c i had 4  hour breaks in the middle  on certain days. so you get some rest.
B) yes, thereâs h.w. if you have the same program as I, then youâll have h.w.
for math, just solve math problems, my teacher collected a bunch of them by the end of the week (thursday). i hate math, so all the questions were a burden. yeah, it takes up time, for math the questions are like 1a, b,câŠzâŠlol.
you get the point. for Writing, my teacher (Prof. Espinosa) was really cool and laid back, sheâs mad young. we didnt have regural h.w. rather, we had some in class writing, including a Diagnostic Examânot counted towards your grade, but just to see how you write; a finalâbasically, you read some essays from your textbook that you buy (the put money on your NYU card so you can cover the textbooks) and they ask you to agree or disagree with some point the author madeâŠtesting if you can write an argumantative essay. The profs. are all different, some will make you do a more work, give you a midterm and a bunch of essays to write thatâll be graded. thereâs a research paper that has to be doneâŠlike 6 pgs or somethingâŠon a topic of our choice. during the reg. academic year, the research paper will be 10-12 pgs minimum for Prose Writing, so get ready.
for Map, itâs a bunch of reading, a midterm, a final based on what you read and lecture notesâŠand essay, like 3 of them analyzing the text in question.
so, yes, it needs time, but itâs you can do it.
C) i mentioned the testingâŠmidterms, finalsâsame goes for math, i forgot to say thatâi did badly in that b/c iâm really bad in math.
i thought it was hard for mathâŠfor MAP, i did great, my essays were good maybe b/c i read some of the stuff, like Antigone, in AP english in h.s. if you go to class and stay awake youâll do great. for Writing, as easy as my Prof may have apperead, she gave me a B- in the endâŠwhy? no ideaâŠbut anyways, i got a B- for math too. and A for MAP.</p>
<p>overall, i wished i was on the beachâŠhonestly. i mean, who wants to be stuck in school like that? but i cant lie, all the HEOP C-step students knew where things were, buildings, people, all that before the regular freshman,itâs an advantage. youâre familiar with the library and the facilities, so thatâs good. and you make awesome friends early on. you get early info. and there are activities, fun stuff like games and talent shows, free. so thatâs fun too. i mean its a combination of academics and fun.
maybe itâll be better if you dormâŠyou can dorm for free during the summer if you live far awayâlike Staten island or something, or upstate somewhere.
dorming might be cool cos the apartment style dorms are available and you get to just chill around in the city. if not, youâll be going to regural summer school, having occasional fun, but cos you commute youâll probably miss out on it anyway b/c you dont wanna come back home way too late. so itâs a chore yeah, but hey, the benefits outweigh the costâyou get into nyu, you meet your friends, you know NYU before anyone else, you have a taste of what the semesters are like (thereâre not exactly the same cos the classes are smaller and everything is less hectic b/c there are not so many ppl there) and justâŠi dunnoâŠenjoy the city when you have your 4 hr break, if you do.
âtip: check out the gym, either Coles or Palladium: during the breaks some of us went to swim in the pool to cool down. itâs funâŠ</p>
<p>thanks for answering my questions! you cleared a lot of things up for me⊠do the grades that we during the summer courses count? can we use the gyms for free? are the classes in the gyms free (like yoga, pilates)?</p>
<p>it sounds like funn⊠im rlly looking foward to the summer classes⊠as nerdy as it sounds loll</p>
<p>i kno this sounds stupid but wat type of clothes did u wear to class? loll</p>
<p>i know itâs way late, but my internet/lap top crashed.</p>
<p>i am honestly not sure about economics. i think that you take, obviously, many more math classes, while in CASâŠi feel bad about not helpin u much. sorryâŠ</p>