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<p>No, I say them the exact same</p>
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<p>sad, bad, glad, mad all rhyme to me. I wouldn’t even know how to try to make those sound different. Anne is different, not a classic short “a”</p>
<p>Not sure why the short vowel sounds we learned in kindergarten need to be changed ah, eh, ih, ect… The “e” to an “i” annoys me the most. Pen and pin sound nothing alike, and they shouldn’t.</p>
<p>Geeps, I agree, they all rhyme except Anne.</p>
<p>But I still say that Harry rhymes with hairy! 
Around these parts, anyway…</p>
<p>Geeps, try these: </p>
<p>Mass (as in church)
Mass (as in abbreviating Massachusetts or saying Mass Pike) </p>
<p>Any difference?</p>
<p>Well, geeps, you clearly don’t have a Philadelphian accent because the classic Philly accent has sad/mad with one sound (lax) and mad/glad with another sound (tense).</p>
<p>Here’s a better word to illustrate the difference. Say “bathmat.”
Chances are you say the two syllables differently – bath rhyming with Anne, and mat rhyming with cat (and sad). The bath / Anne is a tense a. The mat / cat is a lax a.</p>
<p>In the northeast, there is more lax / tense differentiation than in the midwest, where most of it is tense.</p>
<p>“Here’s a better word to illustrate the difference. Say “bathmat.”
Chances are you say the two syllables differently – bath rhyming with Anne, and mat rhyming with cat (and sad). The bath / Anne is a tense a. The mat / cat is a lax a.”</p>
<p>Ok, from someone who says all the Mary, merry, marry things alike - bathmat has two different vowel sounds. Ah in bath ends up a bit, like a question. Pizzagirl has a great technical term, but I’ll just call it the '80’s Valley Girl short a.</p>
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<p>same…both classic short “a” sound…unless I do my fake English accent to get bath more like b-ah-th.</p>
<p>What do you call a drive-through liquor store?</p>
<p>A DUI?</p>
<p>I’m trying to figure out how to say the “A” in Anne differently than bat, math, etc. Does anyone know of another word that it would sound like? (Or a link to someone saying it lol)</p>
<p>Ok, geeps. Try this:</p>
<p>Man
Mat</p>
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<p>Bath
Math </p>
<p>Any difference? If you were writing a poem, would you rhyme bath with math? In each of my examples, the first is often tense and the second is often lax (though in the midwest, like what romani is indicating, they may all be tense). Geeps, you would have a very strange accent indeed if you only used lax short a and didn’t have ANY tense short a anywhere.</p>
<p>My dad used to work with a guy from “up north” somewhere. They used to have a friendly argument about the word ‘cement.’ We say SEEmint while his friend insisted it was suhMENT.</p>
<p>Ok, thanks Pizzagirl!
Mary, marry and merry all sound like man. Ok if I really over think it merry may be a slight difference.
Mat is different.</p>
<p>And we say “fixin’ to” as in “getting ready to.” Fixin’ to go to the store. Fixin’ to take a bath. Fixin’ to call my friend. Fixin’ to whoop your butt.</p>
<p>And I’m fixing’ to be embarrassed by this …</p>
<p>I grew up in Upstate NY (the midwest according to my Lawn Gilander roommates). I use to say Pe-can pie, crick for creek, and ken for can as “Can I go too”? Now that I live in the real midwest, I say pa-cahn pie, creek and I still say ken. I also use barbeque as a verb and a noun. I can’t hear the difference in the Mary, merry and marry. I also can not tell the difference in Carrie, carry and Kerry although my neighbor from South Africa can. I say pop and have never heard the term sunshowers or the devil thing, although I may start using that! My husband and dds sometimes make fun of how I pronounce some words to the point that I try not to use those words.</p>
<p>One thing I find interesting is listening to the way the pronunciation of some words has changed in the Ohio River Valley from my mother’s generation to my own. My mom and her siblings grew up in Louisville, as did I. I have lived just south of Cincinnati for 34 years. I hear certain words spoken the same way by older residents in both locales that differ from the way younger generations pronounce them. My generation and my children’s generation have what I think is called a neutral broadcaster accent. Certain words such as egg, cash, and milk sound very different to my ear when spoken by older natives. They pronounce egg and cash with a long A sound. I remember pronouncing egg that way as a child and I also remember consciously altering my pronunciation of the word after hearing it pronounced differently on TV. Milk is pronounced myilk, with the vowel sounding between a short i and a long ee. Again, I used to say it that way as a kid and consciously altered my pronunciation. If you listened carefully to my mom and her siblings speak and compared them to me and my siblings you’d have a hard time believing we all grew up in the same city.</p>
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<p>they rhyme, I say them exactly the same</p>
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<p>OK…these are different…The “an” sound makes a difference…same with tan or and. These “a’s” sound different from the “a” in cat or mat.</p>
<p>The degree of localization of differences can be surprising. I moved 200 miles from Madison, WI, where everyone knew what a “bubbler” was, to the Twin Cities, where no one knew. But then Minnesotans use “rubber binder” (for rubber band), “hotdish” (for casseroles), and “bars” (for brownies), terms you never hear in Wisconsin. (In MN, BTW, there is no “the City” but rather “the Cities”, and everyone understands to what you refer.)</p>
<p>^ It still cracks my daughters up that many Minnesotans pronounce the word “bag” with a long “a” (sounds like “baig”), and the word “bagel” with a short “a” (sounds like “baggel”). Just the opposite of everywhere else.</p>
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<p>You’ve got “the Cities” and “the lake”.</p>
<p>So my coworker brought this up today and we were all getting a good laugh out of it and talking about Michigan speak. I found out that not everyone calls it a doorwall. I didn’t realize this was a term very specific to SE Michigan. My coworkers from central and west Michigan didn’t know what it was.</p>