<p>I’m confused - why exactly should Hillary concede, given that she’s not far back at all in delegates and stands to win PA, especially if tonight, as it looks to, stills some of Obama’s momentum?</p>
<p>Other than wishful thinking on part of Obama supporters, who would I’m sure be thrilled not to have to deal with a resurgent Clinton, for what reason should she bow out?</p>
<p>NBC says she won Ohio.</p>
<p>It’s funny how just a week or 2 ago she needed double digit victories in both Ohio and Texas to move on. Now it has changed again. And she is now challenging theTexas results already, in addition to the recent sleazy campaigning. She is unbelievable. And not in a good way…:(</p>
<p>You’ll note that I didn’t say which candidate would be persuaded to leave the race on the Democratic side. ;)</p>
<p>“If Obama gets the nod he will beat McCain. Obama can pull a certain kind of conservative and Republican, but McCain can’t hope to get any kind of liberal or Democrat outside of the Anti-Hillary camp. He can get independents too. Hillary can’t. McCain can take Hillary.”</p>
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<p>Per Pew:
"Democratic Base Fissures</p>
<p>Although attention has been focused on McCain’s problems with the GOP base, there are indications that some Democrats might defect if Obama is the party’s nominee. Overall, 20% of white Democratic voters say they would vote for McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee. That is twice the percentage of white Democrats who say they would support McCain in a Clinton-McCain matchup. Older Democrats (ages 65 and older), lower-income and less educated Democrats also would support McCain at higher levels if Obama rather than Clinton is the party’s nominee."</p>
<p>McCain will pull many more dems than Obama will pull repubs. All recent polls have shown this. McCain is much closer to the center than Obama…MUCH CLOSER.</p>
<p>“It’s funny how just a week or 2 ago she needed double digit victories in both Ohio and Texas to move on. Now it has changed again.”</p>
<p>What are you talking about? who said that?</p>
<p>I heard on the radio today that Florida is taking proactive steps to re-do the vote there. Didn’t say if it would be a caucus or primary though.</p>
<p>However, I’m finding it incredibly annoying that during her speech tonight, she continues to include Florida and Michigan as states she won; of course she won Michigan… no one else was on the ballot. I also am finding the 3AM reference annoying. Someone asked her campaign staff yesterday for examples from the past illustrating that she handled some national emergency in the middle of the night, and they couldn’t come up with anything. Just living in the White House doesn’t qualify her as the best person to address emergencies (if it did, then why not Laura Bush for president; why not Barbara Bush, etc?). And before people start to bash Obama, I’m not saying he has had that experience either; but he didn’t approve a commercial that implied he had that experience.</p>
<p>[RealClearPolitics</a> - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama](<a href=“http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html]RealClearPolitics”>RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama)</p>
<p>On Wednesday, I predicted that she’d win Ohio and Texas by “a larger margin than the politicos could have predicted”. That has proven to be true of Ohio. Indeed, she won by double digits. And because it will probably be a squeaker in Texas, certainly, this race will continue. If I were Hillary, I’d not drop out after tonight either, especially after learning that going negative, and “kitchen sink” tactics yield the desired results. So we can expect to see more of the same, and probably worse. A lot can happen between now and the Pennsylvania Primary. There may yet be time to administer “Death by 1000 cuts” after all. In any case, you can be sure The Clintons will try, no matter the cost.</p>
<p>"If I were Hillary, I’d not drop out after tonight either…</p>
<p>The Clintons will try, no matter the cost"</p>
<p>Those two sentences don’t make sense.</p>
<p>Go back and reread. I was saying that The Clintons will attempt to administer Death by 1000 cuts, no matter the cost—meaning, no matter how bloodied the party ends up being at the end of their onslaught, the means will justify the ends, as far as they’re concerned, as long as they end up with the nomination.</p>
<p>Clinton certainly has an edge with the sd’s. This was a huge win for her tonight…</p>
<p>Is tonight the beginning of the end of an “obamanation”? For those who don’t understand, he won in states where Dems will not win anyway in the GE. Those are not undecided, not the majority, are just Dems that “hope”. The Dems that will count in the GE are in the states where HR won.
BTW… CNN projects Texas for Clinton!</p>
<p>she wins the popular vote, but he’s looking to win the delegate count</p>
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<p>Tonight will help him go over the required delegate number…oh wait, no it wont. Superdelegates are deciding this thing and everytime Clinton wins a state it becomes easier and easier to use her and Bills years of political pull to get votes from sd’s.</p>
<p>Voters clearly do not want this race to end yet. So what is the big hurry? Why are the Obama fans in such a big hurry to end the dialogue? What are they afraid of? </p>
<p>Hmmm, maybe that nasty little trial in Chicago has everyone on edge. Or maybe they are concerned that Michelle will put her rather large foot in her equally large mouth again. Or maybe, just maybe, they are afraid that people will finally wake up from the daze they have been in and ask themselves, “Are we really going to make this guy who just 3 years ago was sitting in the Illinois Senate in Springfield, Illinois the leader of the free world?”</p>
<p>I think they’re afraid that Clintons “pull” in the party can get her enough superdelegates to overcome a 75-80 delegate majority for Obama.</p>
<p>The Obama supporters will say that they want Clinton to drop out now because she can’t win pledged delegates and they want the nominee to be based on the popular vote. They will say they don’t want this to keep going because it’ll damage the party.</p>
<p>Clinton supporters will say that she doesn’t want to leave because clearly voters are still very interested in this, and they want it to keep going, and the only reason BO supporters don’t is because people are starting to see through his airy speeches to the (lack of) substance within.</p>
<p>The most legitimate explanation is LaxAttack09’s: Clinton wants to get to convention so she gets the chance to a) argue her case to the superdelegates having won all big and battleground states, and b) try to get MI and FL seated, or put pressure on the DNC to have new primaries. Obama wants to not go to convention for the exact same reasons.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I think Obama’s window for getting Hillary out before the convention has closed. If it goes to convention, I think she wins, because she has such an advantage in the Democratic machinery, and with those unseated delegates as a potential reserve, plus the ability to argue strategic points with SDs. If it doesn’t go to convention… I think she wins anyways, because she’s sure as hell not going to pull out now, so if anyone does I think it’s Obama.</p>
<p>Lines we’re likely to hear from Clinton in coming months:</p>
<p>1) I won many critical battleground states</p>
<p>2) The voters of MI/FL were cheated, their voices should be heard as well</p>
<p>3) Caucuses don’t reflect the true opinion of people. How can older people afford to stand around for hours? </p>
<p>4) I won the popular vote (which she hasn’t yet, but it’s shaping up VERY favorably for her to do just that…assuming this goes to the convention)</p>
<p>Also it’s important to note that puerto rico (65 delegates) is winner take all. We’ve got ourselves a whole new race…</p>