General airline travel thread

Very cool. There is only one ticket left on the entire flight! $1130.

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I’m guessing it isn’t a window seat


Or more likely it will turn out to be on the wrong side of the plane. Seats on the left hand side will face northwest and probably won’t see much

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Maybe they’ll play musical chairs several times, mixing up who gets a window seat?

there are other flights that are available that will fly into the eclipse path.

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Some good news.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-24/airlines-must-now-pay-automatic-refunds-for-canceled-flights

Airlines Must Now Pay Automatic Refunds for Canceled Flights

  • US DOT releases final rules to boost consumer protections
  • Refunds also mandated if ‘significant changes’ made to flights
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That Bloomberg page is mostly behind a paywall, but the first part of it not behind the paywall links to this government web page: FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Announces Rules to Deliver Automatic Refunds and Protect Consumers from Surprise Junk Fees in Air Travel | US Department of Transportation

That in turn links to Biden-Harris Administration Announces Final Rule Requiring Automatic Refunds of Airline Tickets and Ancillary Service Fees | US Department of Transportation which says the following:

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Oh boy
there goes Frontier and Spirit airlines’ business models. :slight_smile:

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Arguably airlines could decide to just automatically refund the fare you paid and leave you to buy a new ticket a few days (or even a few hours) beforehand which will be more expensive.

Yes, that is the risk the customer bears if the customer bought a cheap ticket well in advance, but the flight gets cancelled with the automatic refund and buying a new ticket is more expensive.

It may be more helpful for checked bag fees and other service fees in situations where the airline fails to provide the service.

Most airlines will probably give you the option to accept the changes or receive a refund.

I doubt they will refund your money automatically.

“Passengers will be entitled to a refund if their flight is canceled or significantly changed, and they do not accept alternative transportation or travel credits offered.”

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We were scheduled to fly on BA to Madrid on 3/24, PHX-LHR-MAD. Our flight was scheduled for the evening, and in the morning we got a notice from BA that our flight was cancelled. We ended up being rebooked to fly out the next morning, rerouted through DFW. They didn’t give us any particular notice that we had a right to compensation, but DH knew about EU 261. Since we were flying to an EU country on an EU carrier, we qualified. So once we got back from our trip, we submitted a claim to BA and ended up getting back about $1300 ($650 each). Air passenger rights - Your Europe

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We did this with United when flying from Germany to US. I had to hassle United quite a bit but I did eventually get the payment.

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So when does EU 261 apply?

EU carrier coming FROM EU to anywhere
EU carrier flying form US to EU
Non -EU carrier (United, AA) coming FROM an EU country
Non-EU carrier coming from US to EU

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Boeing ripples in the industry.

https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/southwest-exits-airports-as-boeing-delays-hit-growth-plans-a74fe6b3?st=233q87deejg12yj&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

The airline is closing its operations at four airports in August: Cozumel International Airport in Mexico; Bellingham, Wash.; Syracuse, N.Y.; and Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental Airport.

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I think it was in this thread where others posted that if you have Pre-check but it is closed they give you a pass to get through regular security without taking out electronics or taking off your shoes. NOPE.

I went through Houston (Bush) on Monday night. Proudly jumped into the Global Entry line as a first timer. And it was a line. Everyone was saying that they had never seen a line that long at Global entry. It was still shorter than the regular lines, but not by much. I cleared and went to go get my luggage and they’d blocked off the passage to let people go from one side of customs to the other, so that took a few more minutes. Got to luggage, rechecked and got into the line for security recheck. Packed.

So they asked who had Pre-check, I raised my hand and they said “go to security on D” but that was a pretty long walk. Got there, thru out my water, and then the woman said Pre-check is closed! Then they let a whole group from a foreign airline (dressed in red flight attendent costumes) and jump in front of us all. Then another group, then another. It turned out somehow they were getting into the precheck line but when they got to the front they had to take out electronics, shoes off, etc. Oh, if only there were enough bins to hold all the stuff, but there weren’t.

Finally cleared and now I’m on concourse D but needed to go back to C. Choice to ride a tram or walk. I walked, but it wasn’t a quick walk. Got to the gate for my second flight with 10 minutes to boarding. My friends, without global entry, were about 10 minutes behind me.

I was really lucky that on the plane they announced it was central time, as my first flight was mountain time and I was ending in mountain time (and my fitbit and phone never changed), so I would have dilly dallied thinking I had an extra hour.

I thought Houston airport was one of the most unfriendly I’d ever been in. People yelling at us through every step of the process.

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Is it a surprise that airline crew are given priority at the security checkpoint, since a late crew can delay hundreds of passengers?

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TSA changes rule enforcement frequently, sometimes due to a perceived change in security risk. (Or just a lack of staff.)

Just remember, this is the federal TSA employees.

This wasn’t a late crew, it was about 20 people, not all wearing uniforms. Maybe a travel tour?

As I walked between concourse D and C, there was a security station from the outside. It would have been faster for me to exit the airport and re-enter through outside security.

If they want to give crew a faster way on, they should keep Pre-check open. There were a lot of crew in the Global entry line too, and they weren’t given a shortcut.

I was in DFW waiting in pre-check security line, about 30 people deep and the regular security line had 3 people in it. I went over to the regular line and was sent back to the pre-check. I thought that was just ridiculous.

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We flew Thursday morning a flight that departed at 6 am. We got to the airport at 4 thinking TSA precheck wouldn’t even be open. It was
and that airport was hopping. Actually they had two TSA precheck lines open.