<p>O wow I had not idea that this required one to edit all of their comments! god forbid you say something incorrectly, because after all this is an admissions essay right? O and what is with you people are you all just negative by nature or have all of your hours studying resulted in failure causes a severe case of bitterness? Is it an impossibility that someone that was not able to attend the over-hyped “prestigious” schools because of family problems to be successful? You are being arrogant, and no matter what school you were educated at you have no reason to believe you’re above anyone.</p>
<p>^ well, after that nonsensical rant, I only have one thing to say</p>
<p>“Don’t feed the ■■■■■, and mods please close/lock”</p>
<p>anyway thanks for the advice</p>
<p>Hello everyone
I was just wondering
Is there any problem in taking lecture and lab component’s of science classes at different semesters?</p>
<p>say chemistry, you take the lecture part of organic chemistry I one semester, and the lab the semester after that.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>there’s no problem with that brilliant-a, as long as you take the lab after the lecture. the labs usually don’t even correlate very much with the lecture
however, I wouldn’t take the lab before taking the lecture, since yo might not know what’s going on</p>
<p>Help – I’ve been out of school for quite some time (won’t say how long). As the only one in the family to go to college the duty of undergrad college search and classes for my niece has become my job – back in my day only a handful of classes were needed to get into med school (Bio, Chem, O-Chem). Same still true? What are the classes?</p>
<p>I went to school with far too many folks who decided a few years after undergrad to go to Med School or for a PA. Then they had to go and take the “real” science classes instead of the Baby Bio/Kitchen Chem.</p>
<p>I want my niece to get as much bang for the buck as possible and keep as many career paths open as possible. With that in mind I wanted to list out the required Med School classes.</p>
<p>Can anyone help me?</p>
<p>Pre-med advisor at her school will help her the best. She should not listen to anybody else. Acoording to what D’s pre-med advisor recommended, it is Bio, Chem, O-Chem, Physics. Math - ? D was told that 1 semester of stats is enough since she had ‘5’ on AP for Calc in HS. English is the same was covered by AP, so it also a question.</p>
<p>Hello, I am currently a first-year student at Colgate University and I have just finished my first semester. I would appreciate some advice on the whole issue as to whether a pre-med student should major in a humanities program or not. </p>
<p>I know the side of the issue of a pro-humanities major with pre-med due to a (supposedly) easier workload which would ideally result in a much higher GPA. However, I mentioned this to a professor of mine and he mentioned the following:</p>
<ul>
<li><p>This idea of taking a humanities major as opposed to a science major has been around as long as he has (which presumably is a pretty long time), which means that he has heard this before, and he finds that it isnt exactly true. </p></li>
<li><p>If it were the case that medical schools were looking for humanities majors as opposed to bio majors, many more people would already be majoring in something like philosophy (which is what I had intended to do).</p></li>
<li><p>Were I to major in philosophy or another major in the same vein, the pre-med requirements that I take would have to be RIDICULOUSLY good, which, I think, is safe to say, is no easy task (not that I am lazy, just common knowledge).</p></li>
<li><p>Adding on to the previous point, when it comes time for the med school interview, I would have to provide a very good reason as to why I majored in philosophy as opposed to a science if I am going to be a doctor. </p></li>
</ul>
<p>-Lastly, he claims that it is better to major in a science, as by majoring in a science, were I to epically mess up in a class, the presence of several other science courses that show improvement would help to balance out (not cancel) the low grade. Also, having many more science classes would add to my credibility as a potential doctor, since it would show that I can think on my feet. It would also allow me to have a recommendation from someone who I have worked alongside with in a research project. </p>
<p>I was hoping that perhaps I could get some reactions as to these points and whether or not they are valid? I was considering doing pre-med with philosophy as a major and a minor in writing and rhetoric. Now I am looking at a double major in biology and psychology (or a major/minor route) but I am still significantly unsure as to what to do. Any advice offered would be greatly appreciated. </p>
<p>If it helps, I am starting an on-campus student-run EMS organization to complement the local ambulance corps and I am not sure what my GPA is yet (has not been released), but worst case scenario, I probably have a 3.2.</p>
<p>I heard that major does not matter. There are music major pre-meds, for example. However, I heard from Med. School on one of information sessions that engineering is more impressive than others since everybody knows that it is the most challenging one.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Would you share which one(s) made such a statement?</p>
<p>Notnim- the prereqs vary from school to school, so it would be best to check the sites of some med schools to look up specifics. Generally a year of chem, ochem, bio, and physics with labs and a year of math are sufficient. Some require biochem, others do not. </p>
<p>As far as majors go, I’ve heard directors of admissions say that they do not matter in the least. Maybe an engineering degree will look more impressive, but not if your GPA is compromised. You’re better off getting a 3.7 in econ (arbitrarily picked) than a 3.3 in BME or Chem E. Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Hey, so I’m new to the pre-med board but I read through the first 5 pages so far of this thread. I’m a recent admit to Johns Hopkins University (undergrad) and have a question or two about medical admissions (it’s my dream and goal). So, I know Hopkins is notorious for having a tough grading system (bell curve system, I believe), so do medical colleges take that into account? I KNOW that this question has been asked, but I have yet to find an answer without some debate. I’m just worried that going to a top school that has no grade inflation (and only a certain percentage of students get an A/A-/B+ etc) will hurt my chances. I am by no means saying that I expect to do badly; in fact, I’m aiming for a 3.8+ GPA right now and plan to get a head start to do so. I just want a solid answer as to whether the rigor of the school is taken into account as far as GPA goes.</p>
<p>First of all, most colleges have curved courses where only a certain percentage of students can get A’s.</p>
<p>Secondly, prove to me that JHU is tougher than Harvard or Penn or any other top 20 college. People like to say that Cornell, WashU, UChicago, JHU are especially rigorous but I have seen no data that shows they are any more rigorous than any other top college. Your competition for top med schools are other students from top colleges, not these state school students you think are skating by with 4.0’s. Look at the rosters of top med schools and you will see that 50-70% of the students come from colleges just as good as JHU AND they were still able to get the 3.8 GPA (median of top med schools).</p>
<p>Hm, ok. So for a top medical school I am competing with mainly students from other top universities who average ~3.8 GPA. I will work towards maintaining that high of a GPA. Now, what about second tier medical schools and third tier? What are average GPAs for those?</p>
<p>I would also like to know. It has already been proved (said) several times over that a good medical school doesnt mean getting into a good residency. I would be content with going to ANY accredited medical school, not necessarily a top one. I would love to become a radiologist and as far as I know, there isn’t an advantage of having gone to Emory, YMS, Morehouse, or the Medical College of GA. If I am wrong, someone please correct me.</p>
<p>Where can I find information on matriculants at any specific medical school; information such as demographics and where the students graduated from before being accepted by that med school? </p>
<p>MDapplicants.com is not comprehensive since it is only populated by those who are willing to provide info.</p>
<p>On the schools’ websites. Some are more transparent than others. I know Michigan Med lists the top 5 or so undergrad that feed into it every year. Your best bet, if you’re looking fro the representation of undergrads at a particular med school, is to just look at the facebook group for that respective class. They’re usually pretty complete. I know ours include 90% of the class.</p>
<p>I am a Chem major with a Biochem emphasis and a minor in music. I APed out of intro level bio and went into an upper level Gen Bio course for one semester. I will take two semesters of biochem my junior year, but otherwise may not have time to take another bio course before I graduate. I’ve been studying bio on my own for current research projects (mainly genetics) and for the MCATS (I’m going to take them in about a year or so), so I’m not worried about that.</p>
<p>However, every medical school requires 2 semesters of GENERAL bio with lab and many don’t take AP credits. They rec. biochemistry with lab, but it seems like they view that separately from the bio req. Does anybody know if one semester of biochem can count towards the general bio req?</p>
<p>whoops that was supposed to be a separate thread … well if anybody wnts to answer here it would be okay, too.</p>
<p>I would argue that maintaining a good GPA at a top school with grade deflation is tougher than being at a state school or a school with grade inflation (ie Harvard). If you look at the statistics for Duke students accepted into medical school, you’ll notice that the Duke students accepted to medical schools had lower average GPAs than the national average:</p>
<p>CUM GPA 3.73 3.55<br>
Science GPA (BCPM) 3.68 3.38
<a href=“http://premed.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007-annual-report.pdf[/url]”>http://premed.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007-annual-report.pdf</a></p>
<p>Given that, it may not be detrimental to go to Duke (or a school of similar rigor) as a premed since medical schools will probably take into consideration what undergrad school you went to and its grading policies. Otherwise, there would not be an 80+ % medical school admission rate for Duke students. I would also say that, at least for Duke, the university’s medical school is slightly biased toward its undergrad students. The 2008 incoming class at Duke Med had 20 incoming Duke students (they accepted 37).</p>